TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
Navigating the Post-Covid Travel Industry with Charlie Trevena: Virtual Shifts, Western Australia Network Growth, and the Power of Mentorship
As we navigate the ever-evolving terrain of the post-Covid travel industry, we're joined by none other than Charlie Trevena, founder of Destination Webinars, and a TIME graduate. With her, we explore the intriguing balance between the virtual and physical presence in the industry, the growing prominence of webinars, and how though the product updates haven't changed much, their representation certainly demands a touch of novelty. If you're curious about creating an engaging presentation, this episode is laden with insights.
We then shift gears to explore the golden opportunity of networking and growth within the smaller yet dynamic travel industry of Western Australia. Charlie generously shares her experiences with the TIME program, highlighting the interconnectedness within states, and the reasons that led her to join TIME. The conversation gets more engrossing as we delve into the priceless role of mentorship, a guiding light providing unyielding support and accountability throughout one's career journey.
As we approach the end of this insightful episode, we take a detour into the realm of unforgettable experiences and bucket list dreams. From Charlie's childhood in Germany, piloting a plane solo, to skiing in Canada, we explore a variety of thrilling moments. Her bucket list is no less exciting, featuring a cruise and witnessing the sunrise on Easter Island. Plus, a sneak-peek into her upcoming stand-up comedy show and how to connect for the upcoming TIME cruise lunch. Don't miss out on this captivating episode!
Welcome back everyone to another episode of the Time Podcast. Today I'm with my dear friend Timo, and our guest is Charlie Trevena. She is the founder of Destination webinars. She's also a Time graduate. She's an NTIA recipient. Congratulations again, even though it was last year, and much more. Welcome to the podcast of Charlie. How are you?
Speaker 2:Hello, good to see you guys, thank you.
Speaker 3:I'm so proud of you. I know this is one of your very first introductions that you've done without a single mistake Well done.
Speaker 1:Yes, thank you I practice, so you know in my bathroom in the morning when I brush my teeth and I do my hair, as you know.
Speaker 3:Clearly, you don't have a shampoo bottle in your hand because you don't need shampoo. But yeah, technically shampoo bottle would do.
Speaker 1:I use that as a microphone.
Speaker 3:Yes, Thank you so much for spending time with us.
Speaker 2:Welcome. It's good to be here. It's nice to see you guys. I've been listening to some of your episodes.
Speaker 3:So yeah, and you still agreed to be with us.
Speaker 2:I know I had to do research on croissants and hair products.
Speaker 3:Loving it. That's great, but usually we start actually with the industry. So I would love to know, from your point of view, from your point of view in the travel industry what has changed since the so called COVID recovery? What are some of the new trends that you personally have observed?
Speaker 2:That I personally. So, yeah, I mean, I live in an online space, right? Well, not really live, but in a work capacity, everything I do is online. So I guess trends and things that I'm seeing is, you know, when I launched the business in 2020, when, you know, the world sort of fell apart and I realized everything was going online and, of course, that was busy then, because that was all we had. So I was hosting webinars, hundreds of people were registering and it was a way to stay connected.
Speaker 2:Then, of course, thankfully, we came out the other side, or coming out the other side of COVID, and face-to-face events are back and face-to-face connection is back and hanging out together is back, which is awesome. So then I saw a little bit of a dip in the online space. You know, people were busy, they were happy reconnecting and now for me, in 2023, I think we've sort of equalized to this place, where we accept that we live in online and an offline presence and that there's a space for both. You know, love going to face-to-face events, love connecting with people in person, but also there is still that space to connect with people online and the convenience of, you know, just doing this, just jumping on your computer and hanging out with people on the other side of the country.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's a really good point. Do you see that there's a different type of audience that you have to your webinars?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I mean, there's always people that do love the online space and it suits them.
Speaker 2:You know, a lot of my audience would be home-based agents, would be regional agents who, you know, just don't get that as much opportunity to either see reps or to do training face-to-face. But equally, I mean one of my top agents I'll give her a shout out Ellen, a Flight Centre agent. She has access to all of these things in person, but she loves the online space as well, so she will log in at 8.30 every time we have a webinar and she will do both. So, you know, it's giving people those options and just creating those spaces where people can be communicated in a way that they want to be, whether they want to come and see you in person, or they want you to come in to store in person, or see you at an in-person coffee cluster, or they want to hang out with you online, or. You know, life gets busy and you just need the options to do both. So all the channels, all the different forms of content, I think really, you know, as a supplier or as a destination, you just need to cover all your bases.
Speaker 3:So can you tell me, as a non-travel, but hospitality person, what exactly are the webinars about?
Speaker 2:So, yeah, the webinars that I host are all training-based, so they are destination and they are product updates. So it's not like this. We don't sort of sit around and chat and do industry panels and discussions. They're very much training based. So we'll have a bit of an intro chat. But really and for me, webinars are visual right. So if you're going to host a webinar, you want a visual element. We still we want to see the PowerPoint slides, we want you to teach us something, we want you to show us something. So it's PowerPoints, it's chats, but it's essentially it's all training.
Speaker 3:And has something changed in regards to product as such or product presentation, since COVID is over compared to before?
Speaker 2:I don't think. No, probably not in terms of content, I mean. I mean I have my own ideas about what makes a good presentation and what to include. So I've seen hundreds of them now. But I mean in terms of what agents need out of an update in terms of being able to sell, be able to service their clients better. You know, there is that mix of information that sort of paints a picture of what you're offering and then also drills down to the specifics. And I guess that's probably a bit more relevant to destinations. I work with a lot of tourism boards. So on the one hand, we want to tell you about the destination and we want to paint a picture of it for you, but on the other hand, we also need to give you some really specific things to sell Right. What experiences can I do? How do I buy those? Who do I book those through?
Speaker 1:So it's kind of a balance between, you know, the nice information versus the sales information and so it's funny that you mentioned about the good and the bad presentations and what you think is a good presentation, because I was going to ask you the question Can you give us like the top three of what makes a really good presentation?
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, and do you know what? It's really interesting that you asked me for a top three, because I think three is the magic number right? We have limited capacity in our brains to take on too much information, so a good rule of thumb is to plan and update around three key themes or points, break it down into those threes and then obviously you're going to go into a bit more detail through there, but I think the worst thing you can ever do is to just see how much time you've got a cram as much information into that space as possible. You know, a nicely paced presentation based around three key points is a perfect sort of planning start.
Speaker 2:And what's the worst, so top worst I think the top worst is coming into that Right. So it's like you know and you have to. The other thing is also just changing up your content for your audience. So if I say to you hey, arno, I have got a five minute update for you, and then next week you've actually got 20 minutes, I want you to prepare for those in completely different ways. I don't want you to take your 20 minute slide deck and and sit out as quickly as possible in the five minutes. You know, I want you to tailor your update to your time. That's probably my biggest tip.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 3:I think that's a very valid point, because we all know we all know that science person who just loves to talk, and talk, and talk and almost like I'm 10 minutes late for my next meeting already. Can we finish the?
Speaker 2:intro Keeping to time. That's I am. I am quite strict with keeping to time, yeah.
Speaker 3:The Germans. The Germans love to stay on time, the French people not so well known for that, just saying Arno. But anyhow, what I would love to know, what I would love to know, charlie, so you could only living in your, in your home office, virtual world with the beautiful wallpaper, how important is the aspect of the networking of time and the in-person meeting of time for you, and what has it done for?
Speaker 2:you. Yeah, and that's it as somebody who is not based in Sydney, you know, but I do come, I do travel to see you guys every now and again and I do love coming to those time events in person and to be able to be at them in person. But it's also just really important for me to stay connected with everybody when I'm not in Sydney, you know, and that's, I guess, why we haven't talked about that I am the WA state rep for time and I love having that connection with all the other state representatives for time and even just the people that I've met through time as well, keeping in touch with them. So, again, I guess I am somebody that lives in a hybrid world, that you know. When I'm online, I want to stay connected and when I'm offline, I want to be connected.
Speaker 3:So offline connection in Western Australia that you represent, are you planning on organizing networking meetings there or how is Western Australia trying to deliver the spirit of time?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, that's it. That's my goal really. We haven't. We haven't actually had an active state rep here for a little while. So for me it really is we're kind of starting from the beginning a little bit at the moment, or just not from the beginning, but maybe a bit of a relaunch right, and we probably don't have as many just general networking events for the travel industry and WA. So I think that time aside from talking about all the amazing benefits of joining the program, I think we have an opportunity in WA to create a networking space for the industry and then be able to talk about the time program as part of that.
Speaker 1:We have a lot of work, a lot of work that I imagine. What's, what do you find is that is the biggest hurdle with the travel community in WA and, you know, is there anything that we can say here to try to promote time to them?
Speaker 2:I think it's more. I mean, we're a bit of a smaller industry, right, so we wouldn't have as many, you know, we just wouldn't be so big. But then that's maybe our advantage, that because it's a smaller industry, we can get together and share and get to know each other a bit more. So that's what I'm really hoping. But also I would just really like to see that we have more opportunities to connect with the other states as well. Like I said, somebody who works online, you know I kind of don't want to grow the time family in WA and it's day in WA. I would love to see mentees, you know, zooming and chatting with each other because they've met through the time program and maintaining those relationships across the states as well.
Speaker 3:So you obviously agreed to be the state representative because the time program has done something positive for you in your career, life, potentially personal development life. Can I just ask why did you originally join the time program? What aspirations?
Speaker 2:did you have? No, I am.
Speaker 3:What aspirations do you have in life?
Speaker 2:What world these?
Speaker 1:Welcome to Tima. So far.
Speaker 3:World peace.
Speaker 2:World peace and good croissants. Right yeah, exactly, that's the key of happy life. The question was now oh, that was it Back to the time.
Speaker 3:So do you know what?
Speaker 2:I actually remember the time program launching, like what year are we talking about now? Was it 2012?
Speaker 2:10 years ago yeah, yeah, something like that. So, and at that time I had just become self employed as a freelancer and I remember thinking then, oh, that is something I would really love to do. That sounds amazing. So it was actually a pretty long journey between knowing about the program to doing it for me, but I think it was really when I decided to launch Destination Webinars as a business that I then had something really specific that I needed to work on with a mentor to help me develop that. So I did the program in 2020, you know, through COVID, so it was all fully online. The funny thing is was kind of funny, kind of sad. I actually still haven't met my mentor in person.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 2:Because we keep, now that travel is open again, we keep like flying across each other and missing each other, like literally all over the world, like I was in the UK and then Glenece was just in the UK and she comes to WA and I'm in Sydney like it's all over the place. So, but I had that opportunity to do it during COVID and to build that relationship with her online at a time when I really really needed that support as well. So, yeah, it was a really great experience for me. It really helped me personally and professionally Just to have that person to lean on. I think, especially when you're a sole trader right, you can, you can live in your own bubble and in your own head a lot that you definitely need support and people around you to help, to help you. You know, build and grow and things and get out of your own head.
Speaker 1:So that would be did you have any moments?
Speaker 3:Sorry, sorry. Did you have any moments in the, in the journey of the program, where you felt there's a hurdle, it's difficult? Am I actually doing the right thing and I'm moving at the right pace, or was just all French croissants and Cafe au lait?
Speaker 2:No, I mean to be honest, that still happens daily as a business owner. Right, Am I doing the right thing, as it's going in the right direction? Do people still want this? You know it's questions that you constantly keep asking yourself. So, no, Glene, she was a really great support to me throughout the program, as a business owner herself as well, and somebody who you know had been in the industry for a really long time. So there was so much I got out of it from that sense, you know, in terms of accountability, someone to lean on, someone to just nut things out with, to make plans, to make goals.
Speaker 2:I really think the list is kind of, you know, ongoing really. But also, I feel like I'm really passionate about mentoring and that you can do it at any stage of your career. I think a lot of people think that it's for people at the beginning of their career. Well, I guess the top and the tail, either right at the beginning or if you're stepping up to some huge role. But I think for all of us somewhere in the middle, it's actually really, really important and no matter what stage of your career or your business you're at, that mentoring is for everyone and I would absolutely. You know what we are three years later now. I would love to do the program again and I will probably. I will do it at some point in the near future.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really good what you're saying, because, yeah, I think you've got really very, very valid points. I think that my question was going to be for you like, if you have, do you have like maybe four or five arguments? You know, four or five like selling points to talk to people that are either solopreneurs or three points. Right, we just said that three was really good, the magic number. Yeah, try to convince people that are either solopreneurs or people that are located remotely to join the time program.
Speaker 2:Yeah, sure, I mean, I think, people who are people who are sole traders or business owners. You really do need to connect with other people in that space and because time does such a good, has a good system of matching you. You know, if that's what you want, if you want to be connected with another business owner, then that's who you will get as your mentor and that's and that's what I got you know so that you can get that support Also from a networking perspective. You know that thing that time opens the doors then to other people.
Speaker 2:And when you're a sole trader, you can't operate in isolation. You need to build a support crew around you which goes beyond your mentor. But a mentor is a key person in your support crew as well. And also, if you're building a business or a freelancer, then you need to take time to invest in yourself. You know you don't have those same opportunities. Maybe if you are an employee at a company that has training programs or has, you know, in-house training, you know in-house things that they can put you through. You have to take responsibility for your own training and your own development as a sole trader. So you've got to invest in yourself.
Speaker 3:And so after you graduate it, yep. What made you decide to join a committee and be a state representative? Because I mean, that's quite a different accountability and responsibility compared to just enjoying the benefits of time. Why is that?
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think that's it. It goes beyond just the program itself. Right, I got a lot out of doing the program itself, but, as you guys know, you then get a lot out of being part of the family, and so an active way to give back to the family and to remain an active part of the family, you know, is, of course, by being on the committee and by putting your hand up and saying, yes, I will help out. And I would love to spread the word in WA or wherever you're based, to help grow the family and grow the program, because that's it. The family is only as strong as however many members are in it, and we all want to grow it, right.
Speaker 3:Absolutely, and I think I know what's what's. You joined the committee I think in January, if I'm right. Yeah, january, correct me if I'm wrong. What were your reasons back in the days to join the committee? Is that similar to Charlie?
Speaker 1:I received a call from Penny and, as you know, you can't say no to Penny when she calls you. You were volunteers. You say, hey, you want to cut me, you need to. You should be on the committee. Is that a yes, yes, good work.
Speaker 3:Well, you have to go for the opportunity when it presents itself. Right, that's just how it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but I think that for me it was the same sort of motivations as Charlie.
Speaker 1:You know, like this is a community that needs to develop itself, because the travel industry, as we know, is a quite a small community of people.
Speaker 1:But we sometimes tend to be working more in silos and I find that, you know, especially after the pandemic, where we were kind of sort of disconnected. And then, you know, everyone was very busy dealing with the day to day with, like, such an increase in demand in travel and I thought it was important to continue that connection with others because, you know, like, together with stronger, and I thought that also that mentoring program I mean for me, I saw that there was so many benefits that you know has helped, have helped me to be where I am today. And so I thought, well, you know, I need to be an advocate for other people that were in my situation and probably I wondering whether mentoring is meant like a mentorship program is for them and to try to promote that for for the time community to grow but also to help other people that are my peers, you know, benefiting from the same thing that I benefit from. So, yeah, yeah, interesting.
Speaker 3:Ok, so I just want to pick up quickly on what you said before, because out of the three of us, I'm probably the one who has graduated the longest ago, which reflects your age. Thanks for confirming that very strongly.
Speaker 3:I know Sorry, but I also think every now and then maybe it's time to do it again, you know, and because you get a lot out of it and a lot develops, even after the six months are over and you know, at some stage in your life, you know in your work life, you think, oh OK, this was actually what I discussed with my mentor and now I approach it this way. But after I think, four or five years it kind of feels like a nice refresh would be, would be awesome, either a refresh at a certain time if you know if your career is taking a different direction.
Speaker 2:But also, yeah, it's just like I said. I think it's just so good to have that mentoring support, to always ask yourself where am I going and what's? You know, what's the goal right now? And those change and we change. We change as people, our goals change, our circumstances change. You know, I have a family as well, so our priorities change, all of those things.
Speaker 3:So it's always a bit of a juggle and in figuring out that stuff and balancing it all, so, when you think about yourself being a mentor in an ideal world, what's, what's the thing, the advice that you can deliver as a mentor?
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm not a mentor, but one day I would, I would love to be. I'd love to help somebody else who's who's sort of doing their own thing, because that's that's my experience. Really. What would be the one thing? I think that's it, it's just to keep. Keep investing in yourself is probably my biggest. I actually do know what makes I do three.
Speaker 1:Do three yes please.
Speaker 2:And one of the big things for me is to make a start, because a lot of people walk around with ideas in their head right Thinking, oh, that would be pretty cool, that could be cool, you know what if? But if you actually make, take a few practical steps and make a start and see what that actually looks like in real life, then that's it. You just got to be brave and take the leap because I mean, I had the idea for my business a long time before it actually came to life and COVID was actually the push that made it happen. But I could have I definitely could have done it before then. But you know, you get scared and it's like what do I do first?
Speaker 2:You know, just take the first smallest step, whether that's buying a URL. You know, buy your, buy your website, buy your yeah, buy your URL. Make a start with that. Maybe get a logo. Just start putting some ideas down on paper. You know, do a one pager. You don't need to write a 20 page business plan, just do a one pager. Just get some thoughts out onto paper. Start doing some really small things to make, to make a start.
Speaker 2:The other thing, like I mentioned, is investing yourself. So you do need to upskill, especially as a as a sole trader. You do have to wear all the hats. You know you can't afford to just hire people straight off, straight off the bat, so you do have to figure out some stuff yourself. So, whether that's, you know, investing in yourself from a mentoring perspective or a personal development perspective, to actually some specific skills, if you don't know how to do something in your business, you need to maybe pay someone to show you or to go on a course.
Speaker 2:And another thing would be just to value your expertise. You know we all do struggle, especially, again, as a business owner, you have to set your own prices. That's like the hardest thing to do in the world is figure out what your actual value is and what you're going to charge people. So, but valuing your expertise and it's good to start out by giving people a few freebies or, to, you know, help some friends out and see how it goes and if you get that feedback that you actually really helped them and you've it's worked, then you have a viable product or a viable service to then build upon and to then put a dollar amount on it and start selling it and then build from there.
Speaker 3:So, yeah, yeah, I think we all know, even if you're employed, you know, negotiating your salaries pretty much the same experience, you know how much can I actually charge for my services? Yeah, so I think we can all relate to that.
Speaker 2:I think Haventay as well just thinking about the time program, because I know that time also has a few documents and supports people in approaching their employers to sponsor them or to help them get through. And I think one of my top tips would maybe to say you know, obviously you want to ask for the whole amount up front. Right, If you can get sponsored, that's great, but if you do meet some resistance there, then how about a 50-50 split? You know, because if you're saying to your employer, hey, I want to do this program, I'm happy to put some skin in the game, you know, would you go 50-50 with me? And I think that looks like a really proactive approach as well, that you were willing to invest in yourself, and then you're asking for your employer to support you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely, and I think actually since last week on LinkedIn, there's also a certification for time available that you can load to your profile.
Speaker 2:I've added it to my profile.
Speaker 3:I've done it already. Amazing, well done, awesome, awesome. I know I haven't done it either. I haven't done it either, it's on my to-do list.
Speaker 1:I do. I've used the.
Speaker 2:Flowanna's instructions. It's pretty. It's actually pretty straightforward. You can add it to your profile.
Speaker 3:Oh my God shame on me, I'm the only one who hasn't done it. See, I did it weeks ago. Unacceptable, unacceptable.
Speaker 2:Me and Arno are very confined. Hey, Timo, I thought the Germans were compliant, whereas Arno and I don't know what we were told.
Speaker 1:I received an email with a PDF Look how you do it. And then I did it like instantly.
Speaker 3:I was yeah, I was focusing on the bigger project while you guys were busy with the entertainment.
Speaker 2:No, arno and I are all at the first of writing here optimising your LinkedIn profile. Actually, no, timo, that's your space too. You should have done it first 100%.
Speaker 3:No, I'm in the process of doing it. It will happen this week. It's definitely on my list for this week. Well, we?
Speaker 2:need to remind everybody who's a graduate to do it right. So there is some instructions out there from Anna as to how to upload it to your profile on LinkedIn.
Speaker 3:Yeah, super exciting. I was actually busy going through the city and testing croissants. That's why I didn't get to it, but no, of course not. I don't eat croissants Too much butter for me. Anyhow, charlie, there's obviously something we always want to hear about our guests on the podcast, and Arno usually just asks for your darkest secret that you've never, ever shared with anyone before. For me, you don't have to go that private, but something you know that's super exciting or weird or unique about you that is definitely not on your CV and most people would know about you is definitely good enough.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm like, what would that like to you? Spill the tea.
Speaker 2:Oh, I'm like what's exciting? What's exciting to know? There's a few things. Actually. There is one quirky thing I think I mentioned to you before, tim I was that I actually grew up in Germany. So please don't speak German to me because my German is a bit rusty, but I do love that kind of connection and I do love the German efficiency. And maybe that's why I do do what I'm told as well.
Speaker 3:I just, I, just, I just wonder though why would that be quirky to grow up in Germany?
Speaker 2:Well, maybe not many Australians have grown up in Germany. You know like.
Speaker 3:I take that point OK.
Speaker 2:As hybrid, hybrid Aussie, I guess something travel related. Something that's kind of quirky is that I have flown a plane solo. I did do some pilot training when I was 18. So that was that was pretty cool. I haven't done that since, but yeah, I've done about four or five solo hours in a plane by myself, which is pretty cool. Just a little Cessna Nice.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's pretty unusual, pretty cool.
Speaker 2:Is this where?
Speaker 1:you get your, your fairy wings. Your think about wings certification.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't get my license but I did. I did a bit of pilot training. So you know I used to be a bit of an adrenaline seeker. I think now that I'm a mom, you know that energy get older. Once you hit 40 and you're a mom, you're adrenaline seeker. It's quite so, it's quite so prominent. But yeah, used to love all that stuff flying plane, bungee jumping, skiing you know a bit of fun stuff Give us.
Speaker 3:give us free thing things that are still on the bucket list.
Speaker 2:Yes, three things that are still on the bucket list. Well, you know, I do still love to ski at any opportunity because I mean I live in West Australia now right, we don't get much snow here, so any opportunity. I did spend some time in Canada this year doing some skiing. There are still some places, lots of places, I haven't been to. I haven't been to South America. That would be, on my list. And another thing, because, arno, I know you're in the cruise industry now. Arno, I have never been on a cruise.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Never.
Speaker 3:That just broke his heart. I know, oh my God.
Speaker 2:But talking about bucket list, I need to go on a cruise. I've been on a lot of ferries right yes. A lot of ferries, but I have never been on a cruise, so I do need to get on a cruise at some point.
Speaker 1:All right, well, give me a call, we can arrange that.
Speaker 2:Can we go together?
Speaker 1:Yeah, of course I mean. I love cruising, it's the best.
Speaker 3:So maybe we need a time cruise.
Speaker 1:Maybe we need to do a time cruise, yeah.
Speaker 3:We actually good that you say it we actually will have a time cruise lunch in, I believe, in January.
Speaker 2:So this is actually coming up, which is very exciting yeah you see I'm in the calendar, see if I can come over for that one.
Speaker 3:I hope that's actually true. I'm not sure if I've actually confirmed it in the end. Exclusive. I just throw it out there, and then the board has to make it happen, which is all right. Whatever, that's interesting. So it sounds like we have a ferry tell and depending how we spell ferry now coming up, you know, between someone who's been on a ferry and someone who's looking for a ferry. So that's very exciting. I love that Super. I know any bucket list thing you want to share with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I mean, you know my next big thing is. So you know all that, significant moments in my life. My next thing on my bucket list is to watch the sunrise on Easter Island on my 50th birthday.
Speaker 3:Can you wait another 25 years for that?
Speaker 1:I'm closer than you think, Timo. No, not true, Timo? What about?
Speaker 2:you what's on your bucket?
Speaker 1:list.
Speaker 3:Oh look, I'm actually very close to tick something off. So I just started comedy school recently and not recently, but I'm about to graduate from comedy school and will my do first stand up comedy show actually in 48 hours. Can I come?
Speaker 2:I'm not sure if I can be there for that. Timo, that's so exciting. Maybe some of the time family could come and come to you. I'm not sure.
Speaker 3:Look, the thing with stand up comedy is it's not necessarily the same tone that you use professionally, so some people might be slightly irritated if they know me from a professional background, that doesn't see me on the stage there. Yeah. But hey, everyone's welcome and I just pretend I don't know you.
Speaker 2:Well, maybe we'll pretend we don't know. You, depending on what you say, that's probably you know, me remember.
Speaker 1:I have no idea what that person is.
Speaker 3:Stay out of my way. Awesome. Well, triney, thank you so much for your time and sharing a little bit about your experience with the time program and the community, and thank you for volunteering to look after W8. Very, very important to everyone within time and obviously growing New Zealand next as world domination, we won't stop.
Speaker 2:World domination. I'm actually, if I could just take the opportunity to say, if there is anybody out there from WA listening who wants to connect with me about time in WA, then please do.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes. And we'll make sure that we tell you on the post on LinkedIn when we do the post, when we, when we release the podcast, there will be a post on LinkedIn.
Speaker 2:Share the LinkedIn love right.
Speaker 1:Yes, share the LinkedIn love.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. Another great place to network and hang out and hang out with each other online Absolutely.
Speaker 3:So, last but not least, before we go, I know one question for you how do you translate the bishop's hat was lost in the wind into French?
Speaker 1:What? The bishop's hat was lost in the wind. Is that what you said? The bishop's hat was lost in the wind.
Speaker 3:Interesting. All right, I thought someone might want to remember that. Thanks for sharing that. What about in German?
Speaker 2:What is it in German?
Speaker 3:The bishop's hat was from Winde Verwiet, oh my.
Speaker 2:God Wow. Sounds very different in French and in German right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very different.
Speaker 3:I understand more of what you said than what Arno said, and this is why it's so hard to communicate with Arno. No, just kidding. All right, guys, we have over time already. So thank you very much and see you all soon. Thank you, thank you, bye, bye.
