TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
Dancing Through Change: Kristina Sambaher on Mentorship and Passion
What if you could translate the joy of dance into your professional life? Join us at the bustling Melbourne Airport, where we sit down with Kristina Sambaher, State Manager for New South Wales and ACT at Ponant and Paul Gauguin Cruises, as she shares her unique journey with the TIME (Travel Industry Mentor Experience) program. Kristina opens up about her application process, the instant connection with her mentor Alice at the Four Seasons, and how this mentorship experience has been nothing short of transformative.
Change is inevitable, but it's how we navigate it that defines us. Kristina reflects on her participation in the Flight Centre Travel Group Emerging Leaders Program in 2017, emphasizing the importance of change for personal and professional growth. With Alice’s mentorship, Kristina found a creative and supportive outlet through their walk-and-talk sessions, which fostered a productive environment. We explore how different settings can influence our work and the invaluable role of a mentor in adapting to new challenges.
But it's not all work and no play. We indulge in a nostalgic conversation about our shared love for dance. Kristina, a former ballroom dance instructor with Arthur Murray Dance School, reminisces about her favorite dance style, the jive, that lit up her teenage years. Our discussion spans various dance forms and their significance, with some delightful anecdotes about producing ballroom dance TV shows and even the cultural roots of the tango. This episode is a vibrant mix of mentorship, embracing change, and the joy that comes from our passions.
Hello and welcome back to the Time Podcast today with a very loud background from Melbourne Airport, where I'm currently caught at, and luckily I got a hysteric message on Instagram at 1.30 today from Arnaud asking are we still doing the podcast? And of course we do. Here we are, arnaud. Welcome to the virtual studio and greetings from Melbourne. How's Sydney doing?
Speaker 2:Oh look, you know I'm so happy that you went on a very exotic destination this week. I'm sure you've had really beautiful weather. I hope that compensated with nice coffee at least. Thank you for having me, timo, and I'm really delighted to be back on the podcast yet again with you, and today we have a wonderful guest. Her name is Christina Sambera. She works at Ponant and Paul Gauguin Cruises and she's the state manager for New South Wales and ACT, and this time, because I'm not going to forget to do it, I wanted to officially welcome you on the podcast, christina.
Speaker 3:Oh, gentlemen, thank you so much for having me this wonderful Friday afternoon.
Speaker 1:Christina, I'm actually super excited to have you here because you're always so energetic and dynamic in person, so I can't wait to chat to you more about your experience. It's going to be great fun. Experience it's going to be great fun. It's going to be great fun thank you, thank you. Let's Christina, let's dive straight into it. And first of all, I know, well done on finally getting an introduction right.
Speaker 2:It's amazing yes, I've practiced a lot and you know, for the first time I actually welcomed someone properly, because last time I got a little bit, like you know, you didn't welcome that poor guest. So, yeah, I'm glad that I really practiced.
Speaker 3:Yes, and you pronounced my name correctly. Spot on, so well done, great stuff so talented.
Speaker 1:Only downhills from here. Anyhow, christina, let's talk time. Tell me about your first time you heard about time. In what context? Why were you interested? Or were you interested to start with, and so on.
Speaker 3:Oh, so it was a few years ago. I wanted to do some professional development and that is how time was presented to me. So my boss had said have you heard of time? I think it will be a fantastic opportunity. And I said yes and I was delighted to be accepted. So I had to do a little presentation and I had to submit to say why I wanted to join the time program. So I was really glad that they accepted my submission and that's where it all started.
Speaker 2:Wow. So, you had to do a presentation within your organisation to actually be eligible to participate in time.
Speaker 3:No eligible to participate in time. No, I had to do um. I had to submit a proposal to time. Okay to to accept me. So I was delighted when they said yes so this was a very classic french thing.
Speaker 1:It was very obvious you talk about the expression of interest form. But because the french are, you know, as I quote here seven and a half minutes ago, arnaud said and I have a witness there's more and more uneducated French people. This was a fantastic example of playing dumb.
Speaker 3:Yeah, really Anyhow. Meanwhile we're shaking our heads at that.
Speaker 2:Nothing is off record with Timo no that's true.
Speaker 1:That's true. Sorry, that's just a beautiful voice. We'll get back to the next slide, which won't be mine. We have plenty of time, plenty of time.
Speaker 2:Nice airport announcement we love them. Sometimes we don't realise when we're in an airport, because I was in timo's position last year. Uh, we were, um, we were interviewing bruce piper and I was in brisbane airport and I had to hide behind like a vending machine because that was the only soundproof kind of place where I could hide. Um, and you don't realize, when you're in that sort of like setting where you want to record podcasts and then you know being able to be responsive and ask questions and all that sort of stuff, the amount of announcements that are done in these airport halls. When you're there as a passenger you're kind of oblivious to them, but when you need to focus on your environment a little bit more, I can tell you they come all the time. It's really quite a lot of noise pollution.
Speaker 2:But anyway going back to you, Christina. So you got accepted to go into time I did. How did that happen? When you basically met your mentor for the first time, Did you know who that was?
Speaker 3:I didn't, I didn't, so we decided to meet for a coffee at the.
Speaker 2:Four Seasons and so she had an event there that evening.
Speaker 3:So it was very convenient and we met and it was like hi, and she's like how did I not know you? And it was the same and it was really amazing to be partnered up with someone that you actually didn't know.
Speaker 3:So, it was like getting to know each other from scratch, and I think we sat there for two hours without taking a breath, wow, and went oh, we're so excited about this new adventure that's about to start. So, yeah, I think it was. You know how people say love at first sight? Yes, it was like we just connected on that first meeting and, um, it was really wonderful. So, um time really do know how to partner you up with the perfect mentor mentee, I must admit yes, but I have to admit too, the first time I've met alice, because alicegger was your mentor.
Speaker 2:Yes, she is she still is I used to work with her, and the first time that I met her, I fell in love with her straight away. There's something about her that really makes you feel that way.
Speaker 3:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:So different to the experience when you met me first time. Arno, that's great to see.
Speaker 2:Awesome let's go to Christina Awesome, but back to.
Speaker 1:Christina. Christina, can I ask sorry, I know we parked that question for a little. Christina, can I ask on your expression of interest, formal, when you submitted why you want to join Time, what were kind of your KPIs? What did you want to get out of the six-month mentorship?
Speaker 3:Look, it was a long time ago and if I had my submission here I'd look at it, but I don't, so it was really. The main thing is embracing change. How do we evolve? I had the company I worked for had just changed ownership, so we had new owners. I had just had a new boss change within the six months. Um, we were changing our platform, our booking system platform, so there was so much change happening that one of the things I really wanted to, I guess, help or be able to understand was how to embrace change in a positive way and move forward with that, because so much was changing in my environment and there's more change.
Speaker 2:That my understanding. My understanding is that more change happened during the time that you were at time with Alice right, because you kind of changed role and changed company halfway through it, didn't you?
Speaker 3:absolutely, absolutely tap on the shoulder panon. We'd love you to work for us. You know the um. It was just so much had happened in that short period of time. And I sort of look at um when I look at change and how to embrace it. I see it as a positive. It's a strength, it's an act of becoming different. So it's in different forms. It could be a situation, a circumstance, a behavior in my situation, a job. So I feel in life, change is always constant, so it's really what you do with it. It's an energy and how are you going to embrace this, to be influential, to learn from it. And, like I said, it's something positive. So a lot of people sometimes think change is a negative or a bad thing, but I totally look at it from a different perspective so is this something you acquired, like that perspective towards change throughout time in time with Alice, or is that something you already had before?
Speaker 3:it's funny because I was actually looking back and reflecting and, um, in, I'm going to take you back in time to 2017, I know, and that is actually I was I was 21, yeah, right of course spring chicken.
Speaker 3:yeah, right, and that's when I actually was accepted into the Flight Centre Travel Group Emerging Leaders Program. So that's when I first had my mentor and I think that's where I guess I faced change for the first time in that, because there was just so many different divisions and I had a few different roles. And then, moving into this you know environment of a mentorship. So I think change has something that's always been a part of my professional career and change is good. You do one role, you become an expert at it or a master of it, and then another role presents itself. So then that's how I think you grow.
Speaker 1:So I do believe that change has been around us for a long time, but people probably don't actually pinpoint it, and so how has Alice helped you in regards to that, or did you work on different topics?
Speaker 3:We didn't have a set agenda when we met. We did a lot of walk and talks, so fresh air, and then we just topics just came up naturally. So it wasn't staged, and I think that's what I loved about my experience with Alice. It's anything was on the table, it wasn't structured and uh, and that's how I guess, we ended up talking about so many different topics and it evolved and we evolved, I believe, together. It wasn't just one-sided. I think we both got a lot out of spending that time together and so sorry god yes well, I was going to ask you that.
Speaker 2:So, basically, basically, based on what you were trying to achieve in the first place was to work around change management, um, did you manage to cover the things that you, you were expecting to achieve there, and obviously a little bit more, because you talked about other topics.
Speaker 3:Yes, even more and, like I said, it was more informal, so it wasn't a ticking the box, it was more, I guess, taking on advice and personal experience and like listening to how she had dealt with change in various roles over the years you know, moving countries, not just roles. So it was, you know, taking the big picture and then sort of helping. And the thing that I loved most about it was having someone saying it's okay, you can do this, what can I do to help?
Speaker 1:It's not a bad thing, it was so positive yeah, um, sorry, my microphone was just going on and off like I don't know anyhow. Um, I really liked it. I think it's a really powerful element that you just highlighted there, just having a partner in crime who's in the back there and just tells you yeah, of course you can do that, you know it's no issue.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she was a role model, you know, a trusted advisor. You could speak to her knowing that it was between the two of us. You know she taught me things and she was so inspirational, so it's hard to put that into one little component.
Speaker 1:Yes, agreed, and I really love the formula of the walk and talk because I also believe, like you know, when you go for a walk you have like a light activity together. The thoughts just flow a bit different compared to when you sit at a table. You know something like that. Yes, a bit of background noise again. I mute myself for a couple of seconds and Arno takes over.
Speaker 2:I used to do that with some members of my team. You know, in the past. I really like that walk and talk. We used to use that as a brainstorming session, right, yes? So we would go down the lobby, get our steps in and talk about some stuff, and it's a good way to do a bit of exercise, be a bit mobile, but also take it in a different kind of setting because and I think that during the pandemic, a lot of experts you know talked about, like you know, the purpose of a place and sometimes the effect that a place can have on your performance in any sort of, you know, capacity.
Speaker 2:You know, some people then had identified, like, that corner of the table as the desk during the pandemic right. And then you know the other space, which was the other end of the table, which is where you take your meals and how you know your, your space, and then they can have different functions. And then, because they have different functions, then you know you, you do tasks within those spaces and I do. I do like that because I think that sometimes it can be a different productive environment.
Speaker 3:Um, it's it's very interesting. You say that we um had a sales conference these last couple of days and we had a professional development lady come in and she was actually saying that sometimes sitting staring at your computer you'll get a block. And if you're there and if for an hour you still haven't been able to progress, take yourself, make a coffee, go for a walk and then all of a sudden these ideas come to you, and I feel that was the same. So some walks were a lot longer than others, because all of a sudden all these ideas are coming out and you're talking about it and coming up with solutions.
Speaker 3:And I know someone said but you don't have a pen and paper to write these things down, but sometimes you don don't because you're having that conversation. It all made sense and it became a story and, yeah, later on I'd say, oh, what was it we spoke about? And hey, alice, but um, but in general, I think that's when a lot of the creative ideas did come out, because you're not there sitting staring at each other, going hi, love your baby blue eyes. It was more like you're walking and you're seeing the environment and oh, look at those trees and look at those flowers, and again, that positive environment.
Speaker 1:I really love that. So can I ask you, if we would force you sorry, let me rephrase you if, if we would force you, sorry, let me rephrase if you would encourage to do a workshop as part of the time um delivery, would your workshop title be positivity or what would it be?
Speaker 3:oh, 100. It's in my um personality, so we did you know on the the extrovert now, and I always see the glass is half full instead of half empty, and I like to surround myself by positive people as well. So life is five out of five. It's what you make it. Why not Is?
Speaker 1:it a wine glass? Is it a wine glass or a water glass?
Speaker 3:It could be a shot glass too.
Speaker 1:Here we go.
Speaker 2:I thought you were more a margarita kind of girl, or like a champagne glass kind of girl. I have a feeling.
Speaker 3:Christina has a Cosmo girl, that is my favorite cocktail. There we go.
Speaker 1:I knew, it, I knew it.
Speaker 2:I'm shocked. Let me get my Cosmo and I'm going to do the little quiz to see which one of the Sex and the City girls you are.
Speaker 3:Oh well, it is Friday afternoon, so who doesn't like a Friday's drink trolley?
Speaker 2:True.
Speaker 1:Well, I know. However, these days he's like a super athlete. He doesn't drink anymore. I don't drink.
Speaker 2:No, I haven't had a drink in almost four years. Wow, for all sorts of reasons that we can discuss in another episode, because it's not necessarily on a health perspective, but it's also on a cognitive performance perspective that I made that decision. So, when it comes to your experience with time, like beyond the meetings that you had with Alice and so forth, what were the other events that you participated in? Did you come to the regular graduations? Did you participate in some of the workshops, and what did you like?
Speaker 3:So what I loved because you know, like what I loved was also the different opportunities presented. So there was networking, and then you got to see a mix of different hosts. You know, different MCs, different guest speakers, so many industry leaders would be coming. Then you've got your workshops. You know, like the ship tours that we went on on NCL, oh yes, and we all had lunch together, just you know, and across the cross, different industries, the connections, not only within my own space of cruise, there was, you know, your airlines and your hotels, and it was just everyone interacting together. So absolutely, it's not just about your mentor and your mentee, it's about this big picture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, what workshop did you prefer, like out of all the workshops that you participated in? Was this one that really, you know, comes back to your mind?
Speaker 3:Oh look, I like them all. There's not a bad workshop, but there was one that yeah. Now you've put me on the spot and I can't remember the lady's name, so I don't want to say now because what was it about?
Speaker 1:We can help you out with the name. Because Arno has, because his cognitivity is amazing, because he doesn't drink since four years. He would remember. So what was the workshop about?
Speaker 3:It was the power it was. I know I know it was so good that I can't even recall it was. I think it was about connecting at different levels with different, like with your managers, with your peers and all yeah, and respecting everyone had an input. There was like no hierarchy. Everyone got along together.
Speaker 2:I know, I don't think I've been to that workshop, would you remember not?
Speaker 1:because I haven't been to that workshop either. All right, it was a useless exercise, then. Thanks for that, you know what you know what?
Speaker 3:I probably made that up too. Why would you make it up? Because you put me on the spot.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's okay, all right, that's okay, let's move on, let's talk about something different. So the time after time. So you just mentioned there's a few roles that are covered within the community, for example, mcs and guest speakers, workshops. So, first of all, we would like to know who was your favorite MC this year and then, second of all, what roles would you consider for yourself?
Speaker 2:Who was my favourite MC? You cannot say yourself, because you MC'd one of the last ones right. So you just can't say no, you just can't.
Speaker 1:And may I say, you smashed it, you were so good, you were so good, thank you.
Speaker 3:Thank you. I don't have a favourite. I don't have a favourite.
Speaker 1:I don't have a favourite. Okay, let me replace that question with another one. Then which one is your favourite Time podcast host? Just one second. Your recording has stopped, Christina. One sec, you're not recording.
Speaker 3:My apologies, I'm so busy. My phone was ringing.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's why. Okay, no problem. No problem at all, it's just your Heidi Mann. So back to your favourite Time. Podcast host. Who is it?
Speaker 3:Look, I have to say, Timo, you'd come in there, but like I don't have favourites Anu's up there too, like I don't have favourites Anu's up there too, so I'm going to say both of you no you have to pick one.
Speaker 1:That doesn't count. Pick one.
Speaker 2:Don't be too Australian. You know like there has to be a winner, so you have to say it.
Speaker 1:By the way, this should be a regular element. Can you make a note? We have to put that up in every podcast now, and at the end of the season we see who wins.
Speaker 3:I'm going to. Oh, this is very unfair.
Speaker 1:Not at all.
Speaker 3:You should have told me that this was going to be coming up, because you know I would have prepared myself.
Speaker 1:I didn't know before I embraced change Okay.
Speaker 3:Well, it's difficult because Anu's French and I work for a French company so I'd like to choose him, but, timo, you're so hilarious as well, and so that's why I can't choose.
Speaker 1:Please, we won't be upset. It's okay. If you want to go for Anu, no problem at all. Let me quickly make a note. Christina never talked to her at the time Competition. So competition. Very healthy. But back to the original question. So how do you want to involve yourself in the future on time? Do you want to kind of take a break, or do you want to be actively involved in the community, continue networking? Do workshops, potentially join a committee? What's the plan for you?
Speaker 3:yeah, there's no need to take a break. Once you're in the, once you're in the flow, I think I'd love to be part of it. I've already got the next networking events in my calendar, so um would love to be involved. You know, you never know. The three of us could be doing something in a year's time as well. So absolutely never say never. But no, there's so many exciting things and opportunities that um, why why would you not? You're now part of the community, you're part of the family and um, unless we get divorced for some reason along the way, like there's, there's no reason not to be part of it that is true.
Speaker 2:What I was going to ask you in relations to mentorship because you talked about the fact that you were introduced to that concept back when you worked at flight center and then obviously you did it in different capacity with time is it something that you think that later down the track you might actually revisit and go back to? You know, do time again, um with with a different mentor, or, you know, like to try to achieve different things. Do you think that would be a good concept for you?
Speaker 3:yeah, because you, you don't know what the future holds. So like I could end up being in sing Singapore and now we're going to branch out and open up time in Singapore, so you just never know what the future holds. So I can't answer that, because the answer would probably be yes, I would do it again at some capacity. It all depends on where you are in five years' time.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I fully agree, fully agree. And I think, as you mentioned, you know, different unexpected situations will present throughout life, at all times, and at some stage it might make sense to get some external support as a mentor, and then other days you just want to do it by yourself, which is also fine, we've always got a mentor, it's.
Speaker 3:We may not even know who our mentor is, so I think we're always. We're always asking for feedback from somebody, and it may not be registered or noted, but I think we all have a mentor out there and we're actually someone's mentor as well that's right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I fully agree. But I think the good thing about the time concept is having a more structured and formal framework around it. Yes, I think that is definitely. I personally think it increases the efficiency of a mentor and it guarantees a better outcome, a more targeted outcome. But you're right, we definitely have always someone like I know. For example, he is always mentoring me and giving me a lot of feedback it's really good, but he gives me, gives me a lot of feedback I know.
Speaker 2:But I, but I do feel the same about you, timo, like I feel like I learned so much about from you as well. So, and you know, like it, I think it works both ways, like I feel like in that relationship we get I mean, I do, I do get a lot out of that, even though I get a lot criticised about my hair and what I wear, and you know, I can't criticise what's not there.
Speaker 1:Stop that.
Speaker 3:Well, you don't have to be great to start, you just have to start to be great.
Speaker 1:So I think people just have to start be great so I think people just have to start.
Speaker 3:That's it I love that.
Speaker 1:So, um, christina you're. I would assume you're a more of an extrovert person, so probably a lot of people know quite a few things about you. However, now it's time to share a dark secret of yourself with the wider time community, something that even your mom doesn't know about you?
Speaker 2:okay, you cannot talk about the languages you speak, because we already know the answer. So let's see, let's talk about that we can't talk about the fact that you've mcs your you've mc'd your friend's wedding and it was both in croian and in English, because we already know about that. So it needs to be something that is not out there, that no one knows okay, um, a few people might know, but a select few, okay, uh.
Speaker 3:So I'm gonna take you back in time again and, um, when I was a whippersnapper, a teenager, I actually was a qualified ballroom dance instructor with the Arthur Murray Dance School, okay, and was given the opportunity to go to France.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 3:And yeah, but that never happened. But that's probably something that not many people would know, wow, so what was that?
Speaker 1:What was it? What kind of dance did you do? Ballroom.
Speaker 3:Ballroom.
Speaker 1:Oh, ballroom. Okay, yeah, got it. Okay, sorry. Yes, excuse my non-knowledge it was the background noise.
Speaker 3:It was the background noise. You didn't hear Exactly, so my favourite would be the jive Nice. It's a fun, lively dance.
Speaker 1:So not many people know that, or some people know that about me. I originally studied acting and as one of the subjects in acting we had to do the royal dances of the 16th century. So I just had to think of that.
Speaker 3:Wow Look at us, look at us.
Speaker 2:It's a little bit more modern when it comes to ballroom dancing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and Anu, what kind of a dancer. What's your favourite dance style? Here I am asking you questions.
Speaker 2:Now I'm not a ballroom dancer, I've got to say but funny enough, believe it or not. In my time in television I've produced a few shows where I had ballroom dancing competition on my show, but I think that is there one called I can't remember what it's called Walt.
Speaker 3:The Santa, the Cha-Cha.
Speaker 2:Paso Doble would have been quite interesting.
Speaker 1:And I really liked watching the cha-cha. Can you just quickly show us so we have an idea?
Speaker 2:I have no idea how to do it, but when I was watching it, when I was producing the shows, these were basically the kind of like dance steps that I connected the most with Like. I thought that the cha-cha was actually pretty good. Connected the most with like. I thought that the cha-cha was actually pretty, pretty, pretty good and, um yeah, the paso doble was something that I did enjoy quite, quite a lot watching lovely awesome see connected in time and in dance, but all dances from a different time and the tango, which is also a ballroom dance it
Speaker 2:is. So just a little, a little backstory. I'm from a town in the south of france called toulouse and there's a gentleman called carl I mean, which is known as carlos gardel, now in argentina, who was born in toulouse, moved into argentina when he was a young man, changed his name to sound a little bit more Argentinian and he used to sing you know tango songs, and so when you talk about him to Argentinian people, they know very well Carlos Gardel, because he's the one who introduced that singing tango and he's from my hometown. Wow.
Speaker 1:Nice. One final question, Christina. If you have to describe time with a dance, what kind of dance?
Speaker 3:Well, time is a bit structured and all dance moves have got like a two-step or they're in tune and they've got a beat like a two-step, or they've got time like they're in tune and they've got a beat. So I think time, if you stick to the program, do your two hours every fortnight, you stick to the beat. So I think every dance would actually fit. So we don't want to discriminate. We might want to have a waltz one week and the next time we meet we want to maybe do a cha-cha. So it's hard to say. I think they all the dancers would fit, depending on you know who the presenter is or what the workshop is. So I think we could actually have a different themed dance, um, included in all our times now moving forward.
Speaker 2:Yeah. I loved that Maybe we should have a workshop on this.
Speaker 1:As a matter of fact, Kelly Water did a workshop where they had to dance in the end.
Speaker 3:So it was Kelly. I think that I saw one of her workshops.
Speaker 1:Is that the one that? You made up Before is that the real one?
Speaker 3:But she didn't do a dance at the end of that one.
Speaker 2:She made us dance once.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, in February. In February she did at Radisson I think it was Radisson Blue she made. And, funny enough, I arrived, I think 15 minutes before the networking started or something, and I looked in the room and's where just everyone was dancing and I thought what's going on here today?
Speaker 3:And which dance was it?
Speaker 1:Which dance was it? It was a freestyle express your emotion through body language. Dance A little bit like Arno in front of the shower after he stepped onto a Lego Similar to that, yeah.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, moving on, moving on, yeah yeah, okay, okay, moving on.
Speaker 2:Oh boy, well, anyhow, um, I know your final question, please. Um, my final question to you is going to be about dancing. No, it's not.
Speaker 3:Um, I was going to ask you what's your drag name, but if you want to answer to that, Dan, I've got a stage name which is Kiki Kiki, yes, so that's my stage name that I go by ever since I was four. So we do go back in time a lot yeah.
Speaker 2:But you know that explains why you're here, and that's good. So do you want us to call you Kiki from now on, or are you happy with Christina?
Speaker 3:Christina's very formal. If I'm getting in trouble, it's Christina and I'm like, oh my God, what have I done? But Kiki is is, yeah, my friends and close family and everyone that I like can call me Kiki. So you can call me Kiki.
Speaker 2:So, because we're part of the time family together, we can call you. Kiki from now on okay, that's good so now we're taking notes. So then, from the next time we see you, and for everyone at time or everyone listening to this podcast, the millions of listeners that we have they can call you Kiki from now on.
Speaker 3:Wonderful.
Speaker 1:Love that, love that. Well, kiki, thank you so much for your time. I appreciate it. It's been a pleasure.
Speaker 3:Was it? It was. Although you gave me points, too, that we're going to talk about, we didn't even cover half of them. So I did all this research, did you, which I'll now use for something else.
Speaker 1:So nothing's wasted? No, nothing's wasted, that's for sure. We would have had more time if.
Speaker 2:I know we would have spoken about Toulouse so long. This is a travel podcast, isn't it? So we're talking about destinations for people to travel.
Speaker 1:That's it. That's right. Oh, this is a travel podcast. I had no idea.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that last time I talked about planes that were made in my hometown. Okay, so maybe I should stop promoting Toulouse as a wonderful holiday destination.
Speaker 1:Maybe you should just tell the audience that use Arnaud Chen on website blah blah blah to get a 7% discount. That's good.
Speaker 2:Next time we'll give the full recipe of the cassoulet for every foodie out there, so that they know what to expect when they go to tour.
Speaker 1:First you have to cook it for the time. Family. We do an assessment. If it's good enough for the podcast, then it can potentially be shared. Kiki, would you agree? I agree, thank you, locked in, locked in, awesome. Well, guys, I'm not holding you back for too long. We're definitely over time with time and it's the weekend. So you guys, enjoy the weekend. Don't work too hard. Make sure you spend some time on the tennis courts To get ready for your next tournament. Oh wait, that's just me. Make sure you go on your rounds.
Speaker 3:Tour de France is on.
Speaker 2:Yes, the Olympics are coming soon. They're in Paris.
Speaker 3:My head office is in Marseille. It's all happening.
Speaker 1:In France, that's for sure. Yes, yeah, it is.
Speaker 3:Gentlemen, au revoir.
Speaker 2:Au revoir, thanks, vicky.
Speaker 1:Abiatou Kiki, abiatou Kiki. Bye.