TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
Laughter, Learning, and Career Growth with Shelley Martin
Ever wondered how mentorship can revolutionize your career? Get ready to be enlightened as we chat with Shelley Martin, Business Development Manager at Uniworld Boutique River Cruise Collection. Shelley opens up about her compelling journey into the TIME community and how a colleague’s positive experience sparked her desire to embrace mentorship. She candidly discusses the significance of career health checks, especially post-COVID-19, and reveals why having a mentor is invaluable at any career stage.
Tackling imposter syndrome? This episode is for you. Shelley shares how her mentor’s guidance transformed her confidence and the importance of a strong network within the TIME community. We delve into the unique and supportive nature of the Queensland travel industry, where close-knit relationships play a crucial role. Learn how networking and mentorship can lead to transformative personal and professional growth.
As we switch gears to a more relaxed conversation, expect laughter and camaraderie. From memorable fashion moments at Cruise 360 to hilarious personal anecdotes involving Anna and her dad, this segment brings a mix of humor and heart. We also chat about future meet-ups in Queensland, cooking French cuisine, and even introduce a fun new podcast segment where listeners guess company abbreviations. This episode promises not only valuable insights but also plenty of laughs and engaging stories.
Hello and welcome back to the newest episode of the TIME Podcast. Today we actually have again the hope of the future generation of France and the rest of the world. With us, the one, the only, arnaud Michelin.
Speaker 2:Thank you, timo. I hope that you enjoy the Olympics that you know I personally hosted.
Speaker 1:I did and thank you for disqualifying me on a few occasions there. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, you know. I mean it has to be fair, right? Since when, in the spirit of the Olympics, it has to be fair right?
Speaker 1:I understand, but let's talk about the real competition out there, which is work. Who do we have today to talk to a competitive advantage of being a Time member?
Speaker 2:Today we have a special guest. Her name is Shelley Martin. She's a business development manager at Uniworld. Welcome to the podcast, shelley. How are you?
Speaker 3:Thank you, I'm great and I'm so delighted to be here. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Oh, anytime, shelley, I know, wasn't the company name a little bit longer.
Speaker 3:Let's throw him in right from the beginning.
Speaker 2:He works for Uniworld Boutique River Cruise Collection with two or three of my favourite girls, you know Alice, who is very dear to me, jen, and then Fran, and then I'm sure that there's more people from the team, but I don't think I've ever met them. So you know, we'll just put them in there as well. Yes, some of my favorite people in the industry.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's exciting. Well, shelley, maybe you tell us. Obviously, anu knows a few people in your company. How did you get hold of the Time community?
Speaker 3:What was your first experience with us? So I've known about the time community for a very long time actually Time a little bit of a pun there but for a long time, I'll admit, I really thought that time to go into it as a mentee was something that you would do at the beginning of your career. And so I sort of thought, oh well, I wasn't ready to be a mentor, I didn't think I had enough to offer in that space. And so I sort of thought, oh well, I wasn't ready to be a mentor, I didn't think I had enough to offer in that space. And yet I thought I'm way past the stage of being a mentee. And then a lovely friend and colleague of mine in Queensland, christine Oliver, who now works for Armour, she happened to tell me one day that she was in the midst of doing time and straight away I said are you mentoring? And she said no, no, no, I'm actually a mentee. And it stopped me thinking and she had so many great things to say about what the experience was like for her and it inspired me to think of time in a slightly different way to what I had thought of it previously.
Speaker 3:I'm a little bit of a podcast.
Speaker 3:Tragic not being on them at all.
Speaker 3:This is my first podcast that I've been on, but for listening to them and I've listened to many podcasts where you know they've spoken to people who were even CEOs of companies and big companies and things like that Everybody I listened to said that they had mentors along the way and how important that was to their careers, and so suddenly it opened up the thought to me that maybe this was something I should consider.
Speaker 3:At the same time, I was very fortunate that the Travel Corporation came out with an offer to sponsor two people, which they do every year within the Travel Corporation group, and so I thought I'd throw my hat in the ring for that. But again, I still thought that they would choose younger members of the team who you know still had a lot of career aspirations ahead of them. That was sort of in their stepping up mode, and I was completely blown away when I was chosen to be one of the sponsored members to go into the time program. So it really just felt like everything fell into place for me from first off just the inspiration and the thought around it to being sponsored for it as well and then I managed to hop in and give it a go.
Speaker 1:No, that's actually super exciting, and I think the aspect of advanced career people, as you said, being part of the mentee program is absolutely valid and this is what it's designed for. At every stage in your life, you know, a mentor can be a good addition to your development. We usually don't talk much about age, but since you've raised it, what do you think are the benefits of having a mentor in the later stage of your career?
Speaker 3:And I know you're just a couple of years older than Arno and five years younger- yes, one of the things that I spoke about during my graduation was the fact that throughout our lives, and particularly as we do get into those more mature ages, we're very, very definite on having all of our physical health checks and all that type of thing along the way.
Speaker 3:And I feel like, as you go along and you've got great experience and you've worked in the industry for a long time, but you know, maybe your work life needs a health check as well, and so that's kind of where I was at. I think that, particularly coming back after COVID and having sort of had to do a lot of different things during COVID, it made me think about where my skills sat and where my strengths and weaknesses were and what I had to offer and to bring to the table, and I think that it's an important part at every stage of your career. In fact, I've been very fortunate throughout my career that I've worked with some incredible people who, I guess, have mentored me less officially and just in a more casual way. But to actually go into something where I could have somebody who was more focused on mentoring me and what I was going to get out of the program was just timely for me, I think.
Speaker 2:Do you feel like in our industry sometimes, like age is something that people take into consideration.
Speaker 3:I think we're very fortunate that we work in an industry that, to me, has certainly never seemed like it has suffers from a lot of ageism within there. But I think you know that personally it was something that I was very aware of, that I didn't want to be thought of as not up to date, as the dinosaur who was still kind of doing things the same old ways, who said I never want to be that person who says this is the way we've always done it, why change now? Sort of thing. And I wanted to make sure that you know I could appreciate the young people coming through with their fresh ideas and be able to add to that with my experience and have an understanding of that all the way through. So, yeah, it was important to me to be able to do that. And no, I think our industry really does appreciate experience and does embrace people who have reached a more mature age, most definitely.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I feel really fortunate that you, because obviously I'm only five years younger than you, but I'm still here, right, I think?
Speaker 3:I'm really fortunate that not only am I still here, but I've still been given some great opportunities, and so I don't feel as if I've just been left on a dusty shelf to work the rest of my career either. I'm doing some really exciting things at the moment, so, yeah, I think that it's great.
Speaker 2:On the back of that oh sorry, timo, but on the back of that, can you tell us, like the first time you met your mentor and you can't disclose who that is like, how did you feel coming into that relationship, considering that you know like obviously you probably at a different age in your career than that person was? How did that happen? For?
Speaker 3:you.
Speaker 3:I was so nervous going in, to be honest, and I'd very specifically asked for a mentor who had a different career path to mine, because I really wanted to look at things through different eyes.
Speaker 3:And so my mentor was Shelley Poten, who's Managing Director of Albatross Tours, and the day we met she wasn't able to come down to the induction, so I didn't get to meet her straight away and we had a little bit of back and forth trying to organise our first meeting because both of us were very busy and travelling a lot for our jobs.
Speaker 3:We finally met over coffee one afternoon and it was really a great synergy. Straight away and we both, by the end of our first meeting, just said you know, we know we're going to like each other, we know we're going to get on, we know that this is going to be a great experience for both of us. She really said to me, because she did come from a more corporate background, that she felt she was going to get as much out of it as what I was, because getting more on that retail and wholesale sales side of things. And so, yes, straight away I just knew I walked away from that meeting thinking I'm excited now this is going to be great, that's awesome and it was you did mention you specifically ask for someone who can offer an alternative perspective for you.
Speaker 1:Did you have any other aspirations that you wanted to achieve throughout the program?
Speaker 3:Yes, I really wanted to look at, you know, whether I was doing things in the best way, whether my productivity could be improved, whether I could work smarter, not harder productivity could be improved, whether I could work smarter, not harder, and look at a lot of things around that style of thing.
Speaker 3:But, to be honest, I felt like what I initially thought that I wanted and what we worked through really evolved as we got through our relationship.
Speaker 3:We got to know each other and I think Shelley made a lot of discoveries about me that made her just question what I was really looking for and where I wanted to go with it, and it came down to, I think, a lot of my career, with a little bit of imposter syndrome, to be honest, and waiting for somebody to discover that I actually have no clue. And so she would question me so often when I would say I'm not very good at this or I'm not sure that I can manage that, and she would just sort of have this beautiful way of sitting back and saying why do you think that? What makes you think that? Let's look at what you've done and let's rethink that phrase again. And so I think that what actually happened in the process was that, whilst we did talk about a lot of productivity and different ideas around that, I think that what happened beautifully along the way was just my confidence grew and I would literally walk away from every single meeting that I had with her just feeling empowered and motivated, which was wonderful.
Speaker 1:Well, I love to hear that and I know that's similar to the conversation that we have after the podcast, when we just think, like you know, we have no idea what we're doing actually Exactly.
Speaker 2:And still we're doing actually exactly and still we around oh yeah, we don't call that imposter syndrome, though. I mean, look, I get it um, but you know, we just like, yeah, we just realize that we basically don't really know much of what are you, what we're doing, so you know what you feel. It's exactly what timo and I feel, um, except that you know, like, when we together, we don't have the same name so we can address by our names. But I think that I just want to know, like, how did that make you feel when you actually talked to someone called Shelley? Like, did it feel like it was some sort of a? You were talking to your inside brain?
Speaker 3:We did have a little bit of a joke that we were the Shelleys of time. And that was pretty fun. But what we actually discovered throughout that was that, whilst we shared the same name, we shared very different personality traits. Shelly is so, very softly spoken, very thoughtful, very insightful spoken, very thoughtful, very insightful, and so it was beautiful to be able to speak to somebody when, you know, I'm a little bit of an overthinker, a little bit all over the place, sometimes just a touch.
Speaker 3:It was beautiful to talk to somebody who was able to just calmly say well, I'm not sure why you're thinking that, or you know. She really calmed me down many, many times when I was felt like I was struggling.
Speaker 2:That's cool. I thought that you were going to say oh, I've discovered that she was born on the same day as me, and you know.
Speaker 3:None of the above none of the above definitely not.
Speaker 1:So, sally, if you look back at your time At time with Shelley, what would you say is the highlight, like one word that you use to say boom, that's it.
Speaker 3:Oh, one word's difficult. We love to learn.
Speaker 3:I think the one word that I would give would be confidence. I think she just grew my confidence. Confidence, I think she just grew my confidence. She had an amazing ability to just turn around our meetings into. You know, it was almost a little bit of a therapy at times, because she was just able to kind of pick, pick what was what was in my mind, what troubling me, what I seemed to be concerned about or stressed about, and just turn it around into something that I could see, I could handle.
Speaker 1:And how do you think the network of time in the future helps you to maintain confidence? Because it's nice to obviously work with someone one-on-one for six months on a regular basis, get those injections of confidence, those little moments of reflection and the gains out of it. But we also know it's only sustainable if you keep feeding. You know the thought process. So how do you think the network in the future will help you to maintain what you achieved?
Speaker 3:I think one of the keys to that is the very word that you're talking about. There is networking and the time community offers so much support and that network. I felt like coming down to Sydney for my graduation, being down there for induction as well. I just loved being in that community.
Speaker 3:Being based in Queensland for my whole working life means that often there's been, you know, a lot of people in the other states who you know. I might even know the names, but I don't necessarily know them. I may never have met them, but I feel as if my own personal community in this industry has grown enormously and it's grown outside now of that just that Queensland network that I've had for some time and into many of the other states around the place as well. And that's what I think is the greatest strength of time, apart from the actual mentorships themselves is being able to have that sense of community and knowing that within that community and within our industry, our time mentors can put us in touch with the people who can help us with various other steps as we're going through as well.
Speaker 3:And so if we think that we need some assistance somewhere that say Shelley doesn't have an expertise in, then she'll put me in touch with those people that she knows, that she's got contacts with, and get them to kind of talk to me and talk me through. And now I feel like I'm just part of a fantastic community, like a family group almost, except better.
Speaker 1:We chose it better, absolutely, and I know when I both for my understanding, lisa both have not been to a Queensland time meeting. No, you got her through Like I think it's probably a bit more boutique than sometimes in Sydney. We have 80 people. How's time in Queensland from a local perspective?
Speaker 3:They are definitely smaller than the Sydney ones and I have to be honest here but I haven't been to one for quite a while only because I have been away. Every single time there's been one scheduled and I keep trying to fit one into my schedule because I so want to go. But but again, I'm so fortunate in the Queensland community generally that we have an absolutely magnificent bunch of industry colleagues throughout the state and the support up here generally and our relationships up here are just the absolute best and it's something that has kept me going in my career generally, even prior to time, and I know will keep me going again and again and again. But certainly the ones that I have been to in the past in Queensland there's just such an incredibly friendly and supportive atmosphere that whilst they're smaller than Sydney, you can't beat it. It's fantastic.
Speaker 2:Good. I have to admit, like the Queensland community in travel is very unique in the way they're structured, in the way it's a very tight community. You don't really see that in other states. For us, with Timor Basin, new south wales, the time events are actually really, uh, you know, they're very refreshing because these are like proper good um, you know, industry networking, networking events, and I don't necessarily find that there's there's as as a strong you know um network of you know of industry professionals that catch up on a regular basis. I know that you're super well organized. You've got your own Facebook group. Everyone knows each other. That charity golf day that you do once a year I think it's coming up soon, isn't it? Because we're in September, so that Daniel Morecombe golf day, that was back in May actually.
Speaker 2:Oh, that was back in May. Sorry, I got my month wrong. Um, but, um, yeah, you, you, I, I know that you're very well structured, not, I haven't seen that in any other state, so that's actually really, really good, um, that you have that support network. Um, but I'm sure that the time community is going to is going to also grow around that locally, I think, in the future.
Speaker 3:What's wonderful about the time community is that it extends beyond those people that we already know, that we already have a lot to do with, etc. Because it brings in people from various different fragments of the industry on the hospitality side as well fragments of the industry on the hospitality side as well and so it gives you the opportunity to be able to actually even see a little outside our little network that we have and meet other people whose jobs could be very different to ours but could still give us a lot of different ideas and approaches and things that maybe in our world we haven't even thought of.
Speaker 1:So you mentioned that you get more confident throughout the six months In combination with your expertise you achieved over time with the various roles and experience you had. What's the thing you can give back to the community? So, if Anu and I force you to do a workshop, what's the thing you can give back to the community? So, if Anu and I force you to do a workshop, what's the workshop?
Speaker 3:Oh, my goodness, I'm not even sure what workshop I would be able to do. That's a trick question. I think that maybe the best workshop I would be able to give would be one on change and dealing with change. I think that, not just through time, but in the last sort of 10 years or so of my working career, I've had, you know, a lot of change. That's happened a lot of the time just because life has happened and I've had to take a different direction to what was intended. The resilience that I feel that I've built up over time.
Speaker 3:You know, in COVID I actually moved up to Airlie Beach and lived in Airlie Beach for almost two years and worked for Cruise, with Sundays up there and a very different, very different style of role to what I do here. I also had when I started in my career as a BDM. You know things were so very different back then because you were a road warrior. You were out on the road every single day. You would have maybe a day, maybe half a day of admin and the rest of the time, you know, I used to do 40 sales calls a week and be out every single, every day in a different place and making all those sales calls, and so it was very much a pattern. Every agent used to see me every six to eight weeks. Now it's so completely different.
Speaker 3:We work more on doing consumer events, doing trade events, having contact with people in meetings and things. But you know, I'm not just on the road doing sales calls like I used to be. That involved, which was, I guess, part of what I wanted out of time as well. That involved really changing my mindset onto how to organize my week and how to make sure that I still felt like I was ticking all the boxes of what I needed to do. So I think I would probably talk mostly about resilience and change and thinking about our skills and where we can put our skills apart from just where we're used to using them.
Speaker 2:I think that one of the things you forgot to mention is that you also are used as a model for beautiful caftans.
Speaker 3:So I used as a model for beautiful caftans Absolutely Our Camilla collaboration, which has been a lot of fun and an opportunity to certainly wear some beautiful clothes. I must admit yes.
Speaker 1:Interesting See, we always come back to fashion.
Speaker 2:Always.
Speaker 3:Well, fashion and travel are the best combination. I can't think of any better combination than those two? Most definitely we all. As soon as we know we're going away, we want to think about what we're going to pack and what we're going to wear for our photos whilst we're away. It's an important part of the travel that we do.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I'm also quite impressed today that Arno has his coffee espresso cup. Whatever that is in your hand is actually perfectly matched to his blue-white shirt. Yeah, it's Marimekko, of course. It is Love that Interesting. So you obviously met us first time in person, I believe, at your graduation, which was obviously a highlight for all of us. Yes, so if you have to give the golden spoon to one of us, who would you give it to?
Speaker 3:I think that I would most definitely have to give two completely different golden spoons. I would give the fashion golden spoon to Arno Thank you Without saying completely, and then perhaps I would give the podcast golden spoon to you, timo Wow.
Speaker 1:Definitely giving the fashion to Arno and perhaps giving the podcast one to me.
Speaker 3:You can have the white T-shirt, Golden Spoon. That's fine.
Speaker 1:It's so high fashion, very high fashion. It never goes out of fashion, actually it never does.
Speaker 3:The white T-shirt is always there. Everybody has to have a few of them in their wardrobes.
Speaker 2:I prefer a caftan, you know.
Speaker 1:As a good German at a higher age, you know I cannot just randomly change my clothes. Everything is pre-scheduled, like if I want to stay up a bit longer than 9pm, I have to pre-schedule that three weeks in advance and work towards that.
Speaker 2:My body clock is functioning you know, oh my God, I'm wearing German fashion today. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 1:I thought so.
Speaker 3:Do you know? I was actually a bit of a German tragic at school. I studied German at school. I still I can't speak it. I just love the language, though. I've been to Germany quite a few times and one of the best things I love about being there is just listening to. The German language is incredible. It's just such a fantastic language. I love it.
Speaker 1:Funny enough, I have to say, with the French language. Actually, I have to admit it's such a beautiful language to listen to. I don't understand much, but it's just very calming.
Speaker 3:Well, they're very different. The French language is quite lyrical, whereas the German language is a lot more guttural, and I love both sounds. I did both French and German when I was at school and love both languages and both places. I'll happily go to both of those places many, many times.
Speaker 1:I have to admit, I think within Europe, germany is probably the country that's most underestimated in regards to travel. I agree, because there's many beautiful places, not only munich and the stuff everyone knows. There's so much beautiful other places gorgeous little townships.
Speaker 3:And, of course, where it's not underrated is the christmas market time everybody loves germany for christmas markets you do it in france as well, don't you?
Speaker 2:in the northeast of france. Yes, because of the proximity with Germany. These are the cultures. Like you know, countries like Belgium or the Netherlands, you know, because of this, these used to be like big marketplaces, you know, in the Middle Age, and so they've kept these traditions going. And it's really. I'm from the south of France and so you know my cultural background is a lot more like southern European. So, although you can go to my hometown now and you can see a Christmas market, it's really not the same thing as when you go to Strasbourg, and you know these places that have like this, it's really crisp winter and you know, like, so, yeah, One of my favorite places for Christmas markets was a complete surprise to me.
Speaker 3:I didn't expect it, but it was Dresden. Dresden Christmas markets were incredible.
Speaker 1:Yes, I'm not surprised to get out.
Speaker 3:And of course Rothenburg.
Speaker 1:Yes, absolutely. And of course, heidelberg, right, absolutely. Heidelberg is gorgeous too. Thank you for mentioning that. Thank you, that's my home, sweet home, is that?
Speaker 3:where you're from, that's true. What a cute little town to be from. That's wonderful.
Speaker 1:I know right, I'm nearly as old as the townies.
Speaker 2:Is this where they invented the printing machine Heidelberg? Yes, exactly?
Speaker 1:Is yes, exactly, yeah, is it Absolutely yeah, yeah. So back to time, though, shelly you mentioned, you don't want to be the person who says you know, we've always done things a certain way. You kind of want to master change. You would even be able to teach how to best manage change. Now, what's the next change for you? I want to know. Shelly, in 12, 24 months, give us a couple of things that you would like to have implemented into Shelley 2.0.
Speaker 3:It's interesting that you ask that, because I'm right in the middle of my business planning at the moment for 2025. So I have a lot of plans.
Speaker 3:Obviously obviously I can't divulge to you, but I think I feel like I'm in my happy place at the moment. I'm absolutely loving my role at Uniworld, loving my team at Uniworld and I think we have so much fun and we have such an incredible working life as a team and, you know, such a supportive team. But all the different things that we do, all the events we do, I love our consumer events. We do fantastic consumer events and so I think that my next 24 months is really just I don't know. I think it's possibly the first time in a long time that I've been in a role that I feel that I absolutely belong and that I just want to make you know changes and tweaks within that role to improve what I'm doing. But overall, I just want to embrace it and enjoy the ride. Really, I love to hear that.
Speaker 1:That's cool, Absolutely. Now I know it's time for your favorite question.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, my favorite question that you always ask. So I don't know how that become my favorite question. I think I probably asked the first time and so that's the reason why it's become my favorite question. But look, shelley, even though you know, we know a lot of people around you in the travel industry and we know a lot of things about you, what we want to know from you For the Time podcast listeners which is pretty much like millions of people, it's millions Like if it's 1.2 million, it's still millions we want to know something that no one else knows about you. Tell us one of your little dark secrets If you had a secret life in the past, if you were a Russian spy or something like that.
Speaker 3:I don't know that I had much of a secret life in the past. I married at 22 and had children, so I think that that sort of took away from too much dark past secret life. But there's something from my childhood that nobody much outside of my family would know about me and that's that I was actually run over by my father who was fixing the car in the backyard and I was only a tiny little baby and I was in my mother's arms and the car suddenly rolled forward and rolled over my mum and myself. A lot of people would say that that explains a lot about me, yeah, but I was fortunate to be completely unhurt because I was very much sheltered by my mother.
Speaker 3:My poor mum had a pretty bad experience of it, with bad back et cetera that she was in hospital for some time afterwards and my sister, who was a toddler at the time, who my mother just threw out of the way, ended up with a broken leg and I came out with, I think, a little mark on my forehead and that was pretty much it.
Speaker 1:so that's that's my little dark secret from childhood wow, that is um, that is. That is a very interesting one, and I'm obviously shocked to see that Anna was laughing first.
Speaker 2:I was not expecting that it's like oh yeah, I got run over by my dad. I'm like oh, to see that Anna was laughing first. I was not expecting that. It's like oh yeah, I got run over by my dad. I was like oh my God, where is this going?
Speaker 3:It's like boom.
Speaker 1:It just shows you his true empathy level, like really wow, wow.
Speaker 3:I know, I know. Well, I think, to be fair, I think that he was looking at me, seeing that I am perfectly healthy and have clearly survived it.
Speaker 2:So, seeing that I am perfectly healthy and have clearly survived it, so you know I can't run over by car, and so what? Look at her. She's here to tell the story, but all good.
Speaker 3:Happy days. I don't think it would have been a story I would have told if it was too tragic an ending.
Speaker 1:You don't have to protect him. I already gave him for sure, the golden spoon for fashion.
Speaker 3:That's true, that's true, he for sure the golden spoon for fashion.
Speaker 1:That's true. That's true. It's got its reward already.
Speaker 3:Someone's got to have it. Someone's got to have it. I think that Arnie needs to come into Camilla and get some board shorts and some shirts in there. Do they do men's fashion Last week?
Speaker 2:at Cruise 360. Yeah, they do men's fashion. Yeah, they do men's fashion. Last week at Cruise 360, while you were away from your booth, I came to try your two caftans.
Speaker 1:So I did.
Speaker 2:Yep, the first one. At like nine o'clock or something like that, when there was absolutely no one, I just walked in, saw one put it on, someone took a photo of me and then at lunchtime, just before lunchtime, while everyone was still, like you know, seeing one of the panel sessions, I tried the second one and Phil Hoffman was walking in and looked at me and he was like he said oh you look gorgeous.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen any photos of that.
Speaker 2:Me neither. So if you go on my LinkedIn, you'll see it.
Speaker 3:Oh, that's my dog starting to bark.
Speaker 1:It probably heard it anyway. No, I'm kidding, I'm kidding Anyhow. Well, the dog is calling for you. We obviously have to bring this to the front line. Charlie, thanks so much for being with us. I really enjoyed chatting with you and learning about you.
Speaker 3:My pleasure. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and let's catch up when I'm in Queensland, which is Tuesdays to Thursdays currently, or hopefully at one of the next time events.
Speaker 3:Yes, definitely that would. That sounds great Awesome, it's great Awesome.
Speaker 1:I know good to see you again. It's always a pleasure. I don't know why I never see you in real life Like it feels like you've gained that virtual personality you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but you're in Queensland most of the week, so that's why you know we can't really catch up.
Speaker 1:And you haven't invited me for dinner or anything recently. Actually, you never did, because you're in Queensland during the week. You've never asked me for dinner. That's fine. I'm just saying.
Speaker 3:Mondays and Wednesdays. He's in Queensland Tuesdays and Thursdays. So there you go, tuesday, tuesday.
Speaker 1:But anyhow.
Speaker 3:Tuesday Tuesday Well, a weekend dinner.
Speaker 2:We'll figure something out. We'll figure something out and I'll cook for you some proper French food.
Speaker 1:Oh, now we're talking, there we go. I even make an effort then to dress up, okay good.
Speaker 3:Oh, I want to come down. If there's going to be proper French food cooked, that sounds magnificent.
Speaker 2:You can come down anytime, shall we.
Speaker 1:You might see a photo linked in. Excellent, awesome. All right, arno. Just the last question for you. What was the company called?
Speaker 2:again, it's the uniworld boutique river cruise collection well done this is part of the travel corporation, as everyone knows, and everyone knows all our friends that work at ttc and we say hi to everyone absolutely you know what we should introduce?
Speaker 1:we should introduce a. Should introduce a little section into the podcast where we give them all the abbreviations and people have to tell us what it actually stands for. Yeah, true, that would be so much fun. I bet 95% of people fail including myself.
Speaker 2:I'd say so, yes, yeah, let's try that.
Speaker 1:Anyhow, all right, that's it for today. Bye guys, bye, bye.
