TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME's Ripple Effect: A 7-Year Mentorship That Never Ended
What begins as a formal mentorship often transforms into something far more profound. Just ask Aloma Butler and Alka Tapa, whose professional pairing through New Zealand's TIME program has flourished into a seven-year relationship of mutual growth and genuine friendship.
This episode—our first featuring guests from New Zealand—unveils the remarkable journey of mentor and mentee whose connection has long outlasted the program's formal six-month structure. Aloma, now Sales Operations Manager at Qantas Airways, candidly shares how in 2018, despite appearing confident at industry events, she struggled with self-belief. She sought mentorship not primarily for tactical advice but to rebuild her professional confidence.
Their story beautifully illustrates mentorship at its best—where the mentor doesn't dictate decisions but creates a safe space for authentic conversations and strategic planning. "I was the one that made those plans that I needed to put in place," Aloma explains, "but she was a guide more than anything." This distinction between guidance and direction marks truly transformative mentoring relationships.
What makes their connection especially powerful is its evolution into reciprocal support. They still speak regularly—sometimes weekly, sometimes monthly—to navigate career challenges together. As Alka notes, "I feel mentors learn from their mentees as well. I think it's not just us teaching."
The episode also reveals insights into the TIME program in New Zealand, including New Zealand's permanent home at the Crown Institute—coincidentally where Aloma studied travel and tourism years earlier. This full-circle moment exemplifies how industry connections often interweave in unexpected and meaningful ways.
Whether you're considering becoming a mentor, seeking mentorship, or simply interested in professional development, this conversation offers powerful insights into creating relationships that transcend formal programs to become lifelong connections of mutual growth and support.
Hello and welcome back to a new episode of the Time Podcast, Season 4, Episode 5. Season 5, is it Season 5, Episode 5. I totally knew that. Thank you, Arno, for helping me out there. Today we have the great pleasure of having another airport-recorded session, and I have, of course, the one and only the best Frenchman in the world with me. Lovely to see you and welcome back on the podcast, Arnaud Michelin.
Speaker 2:Thank you, timo. I'm really excited about this episode today, actually for all sorts of reasons. First of all, because we have two guests, and I do love when we have a mentor and a mentee coming on the podcast, because we have two guests, and I do love when we have like a mentor and a mentee coming on the podcast, because we always have really good conversation with that. I'm also very excited because they're actually not from Australia, but they're from New Zealand, which is the first for the podcast. So, you know, season five, season five, episode five, like ticking boxes, um. And I'm also very excited because one of them is one of my ex-colleagues, um. So, yeah, that's it. I'm going to introduce them to you, though you know. So, um, first we have the mentee, or the ex-mentee, which is Eloma Butler. She's currently the Sales Operations Manager New Zealand and Pacific Islands at Qantas Airways. Welcome, eloma. And our second guest today is the one and only Alka Tapa. She works as business development manager at Uniworld Boutique River Cruises with our lovely friend Alice Ager. Hello, elke.
Speaker 1:Hello, thank you for having us here.
Speaker 1:We're actually super excited because we really tried to organize a New Zealand session since a while and obviously there's a time difference and everyone is busy, so it was actually difficult to do. The more exciting it's finally happening. And we can't hear about time in New Zealand, because time in New Zealand is extraordinarily successful. They are growing left, right and center. So you guys must do something very right and we can't wait to hear what it is in addition to what we do very right, obviously here in Australia. I mean very right, and we can't wait to hear what it is in addition to what we do very right, obviously here in australia. I mean there's one thing you don't have a podcast. But hey, there's a shortfall in every country, that's fine but we do have a marge.
Speaker 3:You know, we've got the lovely margaret, so we do have her, yeah and it's true, indeed, that is true indeed.
Speaker 1:Well, we have a marie, you know we've got someone anyhow. And what I would love to know from you, both of you, what was the first time or instance when you did hear about time? How did that go?
Speaker 3:Why don't you go Eloma first?
Speaker 4:Sure, I was given the opportunity to apply for the Time graduate program or mentee program. I think this was back in 2018. Goodness, that's a while ago.
Speaker 4:And so, yes, I was fortunate at the time I was working with a company that were able to sponsor my application, which was at the time of day. It's one of the partners here in New Zealand, which is fantastic. So, yeah, and that's where I met. I was teamed up with wonderful Elka Zappa and our connections, and it hasn't stopped since. It hasn't stopped since. So it's been wonderful, a wonderful journey.
Speaker 1:That's really great to hear. So, 2018, you started at 21. I was fairly young, actually, in the time program. What was your ambition to join? Did you just want some orientation or just wanted someone to talk to you? Or what was your motivation behind your application?
Speaker 4:Yeah, my motivation. I think at that time it was all about my confidence and joining this program. It brought that self-belief back. Elka was a massive driver for that. Yeah, it just was perfect. And I think it was.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was just confidence and believing that I can, you know, do really well. So she certainly helped bring that back, bring my mojo back, let's say. And ever since then I just, you know she was able to help me create a plan to work towards, put some steps in place. It was very structured. We'd have regular meetings throughout. I think it was over a six-month period regular and it was just good six-month period regular and it was just good to have bounce-off ideas and she was a guide more than anything, and ultimately I was the one that made those decisions. I was the one that made the plans that I needed to put in place for me to get where I needed to be, and that was to get my confidence and self-belief and know that I can, you know, aim and work towards those career goals. And I have reached those goals with Elke as my mentor. Yay, elke.
Speaker 1:I'm going to just ask Elke at the first meeting with you and Aloma, from a mentor point of view, did you sense straight away, okay, this is the potential we probably work towards too. Or did you sense like, okay, she's a bit insecure, that's what I'm here for. What was your first impression? What was your first thought in regards to how you can help her?
Speaker 3:best. You know it's actually that's an interesting question because I have actually known Aloma before. You know it's a very small you know small community here in New Zealand and so I already knew of her. You know we've been at conferences and events together. So for me it was unusual because you know when you're out in the public she seemed very confident. Because you know when you're out in the public she seemed very confident.
Speaker 3:But when I met her and we opened up to each other, yeah, she, it came pretty apparent she was very open. So I think that really helps when you do have a mentee that you know we put all the cards on the table and you know, sometimes it can be quite confronting for the, for the mentee, because there's things that you know, I feel you know they want to share and if, as long as it was a comfortable meeting and immediately, I think it's because they matched us up really well, that right from beginning her confidence with me was actually very positive um, but she had her own self-worth to go through. So I didn't feel that with her because I think her and I just connected immediately and in New Zealand they matched us extremely well, if that all makes sense.
Speaker 1:Very interesting. I know we had that several times when we spoke to people that appear so confident in all those things networking events and then actually we hear they're actually terrified in the background to do what they have to do, isn't it, arno?
Speaker 2:Yeah, we actually did an episode a couple of seasons ago about you know being yeah in that situation, like you know being confident, or all the people that yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah it's an interesting part, confidence, because I think a lot of people do come, you know, myself included, you know always have a little bit of mentoring, help somewhere else, you know, just to bounce ideas. Or you know we all have those days where we're not confident or we doubt ourselves, or you know things are going on in your personal life which you try not to bring, you know, into work. So it's an interesting thing. What we show outside and what we feel inside is yeah, I think there's a lot around that and having someone to guide you or just listen. You know, listening is one of the best things you can do. When you start out having or going through this process, I think, and just listening to your mentee and say what is it that you want? And then, after all of the muffle and you start talking. You then get a good sense, you break down and it becomes a little bit more clearer and clearer as time goes on.
Speaker 1:I know now. What did Ika do? Sorry, I can't be any of it all the time. It's very rude of me, however, and you guys can't see that, but every time Ano is about to take a breath and open his mouth, I'm jumping in and asking the next question.
Speaker 2:I was not going to, yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, I'll probably be fired after this episode. That's fine whatever. Aloma.
Speaker 4:I would love to know what did Alka actually do specifically to make you feel more confident with your role and in your jobs? Yeah, first of all, when we met in that very first day, I just felt really comfortable with from the very get-go. I felt I could be open and honest and be me and, like Alka mentioned, I laid my cards on the table, told her where I was at and where I needed to be, where I wanted to go. You know, she's been massive in that way that we just connected really well. We were just on the same page and I could ring her one morning which I do quite regular I could ring her and she just knows before I even say anything. So I just I think it's just that compatibility, that connection and that trust as well was massive for me, that I know that I can trust Elka, and it was both. It was reciprocated as well and I think that's been a great recipe for our relationship. It's turned into not only a mentor-mentee but also a friendship as well.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I do think that you hit the nail on the head there, especially when it comes to like that mentee mentor relationship where we have spoken to people that felt like really intimidated, um, you know, with the first time that they met their mentor, because you know, this is someone who is usually very senior in the industry, that they probably kind of like admire in a way, you know, with their professional career or something like that, and they probably feel that, you know, like there's a little bit of imposter syndrome that kicks in in a way. And it's really important that you mentioned that, the fact that you know like you felt safe and you felt like you will be you, and I think that you know for some that potentially do not want to do the program because they have this sort of like fear. It's really important that you mention that because I think and then I will probably ask you the question to you, arka I think that you know for the mentor, making sure that the person on the other side feels safe with them, it's something really important, right?
Speaker 3:And you're so right there, arno, because people do feel intimidated, and I think it did help that we knew each other and you know we'd had a lot of fun conversations before. So when we met it was actually just a natural fit. We were comfortable, we knew each other, we were very like-minded and I've got to say I also, in this whole process, learned a lot from Aloma. I feel mentors learn from their mentees as well. I think it's not just us teaching, it's us. In our relationship. We shared a lot, you know, both professional and personal, and the best thing is just to make them feel comfortable. You know, if it's just a little hug or a smile or just, yeah, it's important. And I think we did that very well. We were both just immediately just comfortable and I think we just had a laugh first. You know, we just broke the ice. I think I'm not sure what we did. Did we have a wine? Maybe we did, maybe that was it.
Speaker 1:I'm sure it was a green tea with honey and a tap water. Yeah, let's keep it peachy. Ladies, there's obviously no episode that we don't talk about fashion. So first I'm going to have to compliment the two of you. You both are dressed and presented extremely fashionable and up to time. So is this something maybe more for you, aloma? Throughout the process, when you got more confident with what you do, has it affected your fashion as well, or have you always been a fashion fan? Tell us, and after that we obviously talk about Arnaud's fashion today.
Speaker 4:Oh my God. Yeah, I'll count myself as fashionable, but what I I've always been brought up to is that when you go to work, you need to present yourself and and I think that I've seen I've been with employers and um managers where they've come into work and they're in work mode, they're presented, you know, in really lovely clothes and they just the whole. It just creates a whole great vibe. When you're dressed in a way, you're confident, you feel confident because you're comfortable in the clothes and you project this great energy about you. Because, yeah, and I just think that if you're dressed in comfortable clothes and you feel like you look fantastic, I think you can take on anything in your day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I fully agree. I fully agree. I think clothes or the way you, you know you, dress can do a lot to your day form and really help drive a certain um, energy you're aiming for in a room, I think. And, for example, we had today, as we recorded this lovely podcast, and I was barely wearing anything, you know, just like his summer outfit with his loose shirt, and it was all over the place. Anno, what was your take on that fashion piece? No, we don't talk about that anymore, but let's talk about your beautiful jumper today and the two ladies can attest to that, as soon as we came to the studio, I was complimenting Anno on his beautiful jumper today.
Speaker 3:Thank you. Very handsome Anno, very handsome. But I just want to know, are you wearing your glittery converse?
Speaker 2:Not now.
Speaker 1:Good question.
Speaker 2:Not today. Good question, not today, but yeah, not today.
Speaker 1:Usually, when he's at the high table, he has to wear the heels.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I just like you are the duo, you are the duo.
Speaker 1:It's always fun. It's always fun. So tell us a little bit about I hope you had an opportunity and I'm sure you did the networking events in, uh, new zealand. So I've learned today you actually have a fixed location, which is different to australia because we move around for every event. You have like a fixed, you have like a time home, pretty much yes, pretty, we do.
Speaker 3:We have a time home, um, it's the crown institute which is, which is probably quite apt, because this is where new uh travel, inspiring um students uh learn all about tourism, and they've kindly um given us a space. So we've always got uh available, which is great. And you know, margaret sort of has got us all you know good space. She's done such an amazing job just to keep everything you know in the one place easy to get to. Yeah, so, but I'm sure that in time we have had some other venues as well if that was not available. But it's quite nice to have the one place to go to. It's quite a nice venue, isn't it? Aloma.
Speaker 4:Yeah, in fact, crown was where I studied my travel and tourism diploma and I did my studies there and got my diploma for Level 3 and 4. So it's really quite cool how I've done full circle with Crown, because they were the very first stepping stone for me to come into the travel industry. And there was one event, a grand event, where we held at Crown and I was the MC. So it was quite a cool moment to be able to be standing at Crown and being a speaker as an emcee for an evening. So, yeah, I felt that was pretty amazing.
Speaker 2:Wow, yeah, you're right. It's like kind of full circle, giving it back to where you started, to where you are now. Back to where you started, to where you are now. Now, I just wanted to talk about your relationship between the two of you. Like, obviously, this mentorship journey started for you what about like six, seven years ago, right, and you've all obviously kept in touch. Have you during that time thought of doing the program again and see if another mentor could take you to another part of your career?
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely I think. So I think there's always opportunities to always learn and, you know, in I have in our programme we can connect with other mentors for a period of time, and I think that's something I would like to do for sure, because I think it's great to have different, just to understand different advice from people with different backgrounds. So, yeah, I think that I'm definitely open to that. I haven't done it yet, but I'd definitely be open to that.
Speaker 2:And how often do you two, you know, talk to each other to talk about like career? And, you know, once a week.
Speaker 3:Probably sometimes once a week, sometimes once in two weeks, sometimes once a month, but we've been doing it ever since we've been paired together. Yeah, I think that's about right, isn't it, lama? We've just continued, and she's just continued to call me. I'm always happy to be available anytime, you know, just for her to bounce things off, and you know likewise for me. Now that we've got this friendship and you know her career has advanced as well since her time program, I'm very, very proud of what she's achieved.
Speaker 3:But it's just nice just to be able to ring someone and say, oh my God, I've got this issue, or can you help me? What do you think could be good here? And then we just end up having a nice conversation and we, you know, we just help each other. Actually, I think out of the program, we've both helped each other find our way. You know I've also, I know you know I've had a change in in in my career path and role. So, um, it's just a nice friendship.
Speaker 3:When we both started, we were both in sales and so I think that also helps that. Uh, we had the same connection in terms of our career path and, and now that Loma's doing, um, a lot more other things. It's good. I think it's good for her to get another mentor, maybe down the line, to give her another perspective on where she is at the moment. But I don't think we'll ever lose our catch-ups. I mean we're always going to call each other, I think, for many, many years to come. Yes, I think it's great, it's nice, I know when she calls, I know, and it's probably usually around about 8 o'clock in the morning on the way to work. So it kind of works well for us, yeah.
Speaker 1:I think your relationship is such a great reflection of the time community and why the time community was founded like 15 years ago. You, you know that helping each other um assisting each other to grow your careers, grow your personalities, connect um and become friends um to a certain degree, you know um, and that's exactly what the whole time community is doing. And such a beautiful story the two of you have, even after such a long time, still being so close. I think that is. That is very extraordinary and it speaks for you know how much the two of you really enjoyed the time together and the time program.
Speaker 3:Yes, it's fantastic and we're probably one of the earlier on pairings, you know when we came into New Zealand, so maybe after a year or so.
Speaker 4:So we've been. I think it was food intake, I think.
Speaker 2:Third intake Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah yeah. And it's grown a lot and they've done some amazing things here in New Zealand to get it to where it is. But, yeah, I'm really grateful for having had the opportunity to be a mentor. I wanted to do it because, you know, being in my career for so long, I wanted to give back and I couldn't think of anyone better than to help my lovely friend here, Aloma. I think it's been a really lovely journey.
Speaker 1:I know I'm also rushing around 2018 now program, If I remember that right. I don't know. Please correct me if I'm wrong. You were his mentor no, my gosh, there's nothing. I mean, I could definitely teach him some fashion, but, um, otherwise that's not why that's. That's the guy here that's boring about jumper sitting at an airport, sitting sitting at an airport lounge, in my, in my, in my old, unwashed under those sneakers. Yes, there you go.
Speaker 3:You look fabulous, don't you worry. Both look, and I do like the jumper. I know it does look good.
Speaker 2:What's next for you, the two of you like with time? Loma, are you looking at, you know, maybe becoming a mentor yourself? And Alka, are you going to mentor more people?
Speaker 3:Yes, I'm definitely, you know, to mentor more people. Um, I I would. Yes, I'm definitely in, uh, you know, to mentor more people. I. I do actually like uh mentor and I enjoy it. I like to. It's just nice to see that success come through and you've helped somebody achieve something, um, along the way. That is positive. Yes, I would. Well, you know, if there's the right pairing, I'll definitely do it again. I think it's very, very rewarding myself.
Speaker 1:I agree what you said before. You also learn so much from the mentee going through that journey. It's such a beautiful process and I can't re-emphasize it often enough, and we do it since five seasons. It's magic, it's just magic.
Speaker 3:It is, it is season, it's just it's magic. It's just magic, it is, it is. And you know, and they, whoever pairs us all up, they do such a good job and in making sure you've got the right pairing. You know, because that's extremely important. Like you said earlier, it can be intimidating, so you know they'd all just do a wonderful job in in making sure we're all matched really well as well now the question I have before we come to the awards.
Speaker 1:I'm just going to ask you are you guys coming for the 15-year anniversary to Sydney in September? I believe it is September. Yeah, are you bringing us over? Yes, look, I personally. Fine, that is a notification to make sure that you know about an event happening, and I would never force you to do anything. So if you feel like you want to be part of it, you can actually arrange yourself to come to Sydney.
Speaker 3:Do you see now, loma, he put, you can arrange yourself to come to Sydney. I love it.
Speaker 1:It's very subtle, Diplomaticallyatically it was a very difficult situation for me. Right now, I think I just manoeuvred through no.
Speaker 4:It looks. Yeah, that looks like an amazing event to go to. So I did see that on the LinkedIn post, I think it was. But, yeah, I would love to go. So I might have to just do some digging and some looking into Elke. That could be.
Speaker 3:It could be a thing we could do.
Speaker 4:It could be a thing for us.
Speaker 3:Can I ask Timu and Ano, have you been with time for the last 15 years? Is this from the get-go?
Speaker 1:I know Arno looks quite old, but he's not that old, so it's not quite 50 years yet. No, I think Arno. I think Arno was also 2016, was it?
Speaker 2:Is that what you said? No, 2022.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're very that late, see, I feel already much more connected to you, like it's a very long time that I know you.
Speaker 2:I know We've been doing that for a long time now, you know, and it's 2025, believe it or not?
Speaker 1:Yeah, If someone would have told you if you do the time program, you have to end up on the podcast with me, you would have not done it.
Speaker 3:No, I would not have done it. And you've obviously both mentored people or been mentees.
Speaker 1:I have yes, I know has explored the after-program mentoring a little bit just recently. I'm not sure I Aloma if you have taken use of that have made use of that yet, but after your graduation you obviously have your yearly mentoring as well as part of the community where you can choose someone to discuss. I don't know your next year of career planning, for example, or whatever you choose to.
Speaker 2:Yes, I've done that. That's something.
Speaker 1:I haven't done that. I know has explored and was very positive about it.
Speaker 2:I loved it. We did a full episode on this, oh great.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'll have to look into that too, as well.
Speaker 2:And I saw Neil, who was the person that I chose to be, you know, in that session. I saw him last week and, yeah, we had a really good chat. We did a bit of a follow up on on what we, what we had discussed during that session, and then I'm just going to catch up with him for a coffee in the next few weeks. So, yeah, it's been really positive, fantastic, exciting.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Last question ladies, I'm excited to hear your answers, so I'm not sure how many podcasts you have listened to since we've been here Words and such. The question, the last question, is always tell us about it's not a question, it's more about sharing creativity. Tell us about one of your darkest secrets that no one is aware of. I think this is a great opportunity. I just want to say it's a great opportunity for the mentor to lead the way.
Speaker 3:Oh dear, the mentor cannot divulge any dark secrets. It depends what kind Are we PG, or are we not PG there you?
Speaker 2:go Well. Look, you know, this is a professional podcast, so let's keep it PG.
Speaker 3:So my darkest secret is I'm writing a book.
Speaker 1:Oh about, yeah, Fiction, or is it About the life of a woman? So fiction, no, inspired by your life, mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:That's exciting.
Speaker 1:So when is it going to be published? It's been a work of passion.
Speaker 3:I think it's just taking me quite some time. That's exciting. When is it going to be published? It's been a work of passion. I think it's just taking me quite some time. I do have someone who has said once it's done, you know that he'll look at it, but it's been fits of starting, not starting changing chapters. I need to really try and get onto it. You know, it's just about life and women and me, I suppose, because I was a single parent, you know, for all of my children's life and there was lots of different things happened from where I came from to where I am now. So I thought I might just write some stuff about it. Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's a beautiful not dark, but a beautiful secret to share.
Speaker 3:Thank you, it's a beautiful secret, it's dark and that nobody really knew until now.
Speaker 2:Very good, now the whole travel industry knows, and the world Exactly.
Speaker 1:Right now, your promotion activity, your marketing has started.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I'm employing you. You're going to be my manager when I'm famous. You know you all can just come along. You can come to my book signing. How's that?
Speaker 2:That sounds great.
Speaker 1:It's super exciting. I know he has just one request Every time he goes to public, he needs his own stylist. Okay, I've promised, I think, request every time he goes to public, he needs his own stylist. Okay, I think that's also in his podcast contract. That's part of it, okay, do you mean hair stylist? No, yeah, yeah, hair stylist. Okay, I know, just for the records, I didn't say this time, not this time, not this time I can't be mean.
Speaker 3:I can't be mean to ano, because when he went to korea, you know, when we were in our other role, he bought me this gorgeous. He gave me we had what was it? We had that christmas remember, um, and I chose, took my number out and he gave me a beautiful present and I still have it, ano, just so you know cool.
Speaker 2:That's a little doll. I think the little doll. It was very cute, but I um, I still have it.
Speaker 3:I'll probably give it to my granddaughter at some point, because she'll eye it up.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Nice, that's good, loma. What about your secret? Wow?
Speaker 4:I just can't think of a dark secret. To be honest, I'm a very open book. To be honest, I could be the next person applying to be a stand-in for Alka's, the Movie that comes out when Alka comes out.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, you could be me. You could be me, I can be that.
Speaker 2:I can be that.
Speaker 4:I'm a long tradition.
Speaker 2:There you go, timo. We've already promoted a book and the film that is going to come out of that. You know, on the book rides and we've already casted the lead. Yeah, they are.
Speaker 3:See how efficient we are in two minutes of podcast you have taken us to another level.
Speaker 2:This is why we are world sensation. You are, you are.
Speaker 3:I'm waiting to see you in the awards. Do they have those podcast awards? And you will be winning one. You'll be the Oscar.
Speaker 1:We definitely deserve that. The professionalism is unheard of.
Speaker 3:Oh, I love it. This is fun, this is fun.
Speaker 1:All right. Well, thank you, guys. We come to the end of this, we're running out of time, and happy Friday. First of all, a big thank you for sharing your time with us, but also for sharing your beautiful story with us, and I really hope you can make it to our lovely little time anniversary in September. Yes, it would be awesome to have a green tea and a honey together. Yes, and cheers to the time community.
Speaker 4:Oh, definitely.
Speaker 2:Just a reminder it is on the 10th of September. It will take place in Sydney. The 10th of September, by the way, is a Wednesday. It will take place in Sydney, in North Sydney, at Zurich Tower, and it starts at 6. And you can register through LinkedIn or through the Time website.
Speaker 1:Beautiful venue, by the way. Beautiful views over the city, the Harbour Bridge Opera House, I think. Even I know when I did a selfie there one day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's amazing. The balcony that they have is just like the best place in town. It's pretty stunning.
Speaker 3:It's pretty stunning Well you know, I think we will you know what our people will talk to your people and then we'll let you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, then our stylists will let us know.
Speaker 3:Perfect, that's right, we so yeah, then our, then our stylist will let us know. Perfect, we'll have makeup and wardrobe already just for the event. So you know, we'll be loving it, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be, we'll be in check with you, don't worry. But thank you very, very much for actually organizing this and having us come and join you. It's been a real pleasure and, yeah, it was, it was, it was a lot of fun actually. I really enjoyed it. And can I just give a nice big shout-out to our wonderful New Zealand Time organisation here? They do do a really great job and love what they do. So you know, we're only a small, little country, but we have big hearts, that's what I say, and we have big hearts, that's what I say and we have big personalities. So we look forward to actually, yeah, coming over and hopefully it would be nice to have us all get together one day as Australasia, just for a catch-up. You know, we're still another country, just be mindful of that. That's all I really.
Speaker 3:We know, we know, we know, yeah, but you know. But thank you, thank you to my wonderful Loma. You know you're just a breath of fresh air and always trying your best. So you know you're doing really well, proud of you.
Speaker 4:Thanks, elka, lovely Thanks, elka. Kudos to all of us.
Speaker 1:Yes, You're most welcome. All right guys, happy weekend and hopefully see you soon.
