TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
TIME - Travel Industry Mentor Experience
Hot Studio, Cooler Heads: Travel Ops, Mentors, And Rooftop Dreams - TIME with Katrina Humphrey
The room was sweltering and the banter was hot, but the real heat came from Katrina Humphrey’s story of how quiet, consistent action turns into leadership that lasts. We bring Katrina into the studio to map her shift from travel consultant to business operations manager at a busy corporate travel agency, where she supports consultants, liaises with accounting and offshore teams, and spots the tiny process breaks that trip everyone up. One wrong hotel email address. One faster fix. One smoother day for the whole team. That’s how operational excellence is built.
Katrina credits a pivotal mentorship through the TIME program, pairing her with Kelly, a dynamic professional development coach. Together, they rebuilt confidence as a practice, not a personality trait—calibrating tone for senior conversations, preparing for confrontation without losing composure, and asking the questions that move decisions forward. The surprising twist is how these tools bled into her personal life, helping her unpack anxiety, repair connection with her father in New Zealand, and return with a lighter heart. Leadership, it turns out, doesn’t stop at the office door.
We also get honest about the logistics: six months that stretched with work travel, a flexible cadence of sessions, and the missed magic of too many networking nights. Still, the takeaways are sharp and practical. Use visual cues—like Katrina’s “Do epic shit” artwork—to prime action. Visualise the terrain before your big moments, the way a runner maps a marathon in their mind. Set bolder projects, ship the neglected ones, and let openness replace self-doubt. If you’re navigating operations, corporate travel, or any fast-moving team, Katrina’s journey offers repeatable steps you can use today.
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Hello and welcome back to the Time Podcast. Season six, episode two. Now, today is an extraordinary hot day, not only outside, but also inside of the studio. And it only has to do with our hands and French co-host of the Time Podcast, also known as Amor Matila. Welcome back.
SPEAKER_01:Bonjour Timon. Yeah, I'm bringing the hotness back to the podcast for Stephen Speaks.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you for the audio. It's not because we've aged, it's because people were too distracted by your beauty.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, and that exactly. And I never take that for granted. So I wanted to thank you for acknowledging that. But let's not talk about me today. We have a special guest. Her name is Katrina Humphrey.
SPEAKER_00:We have an even more beautiful guest. That is George.
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. She's hotter than ever. Her name is Katrina Humphrey. She's the business operations manager at Anywhere. Welcome to episode two, season six, Katrina.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you. Thank you so much. Happy to be here.
SPEAKER_00:Hello, Katrina. So nice to have you here. Can you do me a favor? Can you maybe quickly explain what you do as a job for someone who's not within the industry so we understand more what your expertise is?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so I guess I look after quite a quite a bit within the company itself. So we're a corporate travel agency. So obviously book corporate travel for lots of different companies, whether it's um like mining companies, power companies, you know, um we've got academics in there as well. So we've got a really huge variety of clients. Um I started off as a consultant and so I still do consult a little, so still book travel, but now I kind of look after a lot of different parts of the business. So I look after and just monitor stuff, things like accounting. Um, so the accounts team, I have a lot to do with them. I have a lot to do with our offshore accounts. So we have um an offshore team in Jakarta, so I manage them, I do a lot of the training, I do all the new starters, I look after the corporate team. So if anyone needs help, they'll come through to me and hopefully I can help them. Um and then yeah, I'm just there for support. Um, I attend a lot of meetings with management as well. So I kind of yeah um report directly to the GM and the CEO. Um, yeah, and I just I don't know, I've just been that person I like to get my hands in everything and just make sure everything's running smoothly. So a hand in each kind of pie, I guess, is probably the best way to describe me and my job.
SPEAKER_01:You're running the business, and if you're not there, it falls apart, right? Um no, definitely not.
SPEAKER_00:Katrina, can you tell me though? I find quite interesting, because depending, no matter what uh what position one has, there's always some form of leadership style or leadership involved. Now, the change from a consultant to what you do now, how is your leadership style adjusted or changed, if at all?
SPEAKER_03:Um I wouldn't say uh I guess things have changed along the line, but I've always been that person that's been quite driven. So if I see something, I don't just leave it. Um so yesterday I perfect example of I guess how I kind of just progressed to where I got um is that I just noticed that there was a hotel that the email address was wrong. So we were getting a bounce back from a hotel. I don't know how long it's been happening. It could have been there for a while, but for me, it's just in my nature to go in and fix that. Because not only am I saving myself time in the future, but I'm helping the team out. So I take that approach to everything I do. So if I see a process or something that I can fix, make better, make it more smarter. Um, that's just what I've done. So that's kind of the style I have had across my whole career. Um, and even before I joined travel, like it's the same thing. So I've kind of just always navigated towards a leadership role. And I guess it's just those little things I've done along the way that kind of stand out to people because some people are just happy doing their job. Come in, clock out, A to B, that's fine. And there's no problem with that, but it's it's just never been me. Like I just, yeah, I'm that kind of person that just wants to drive and and succeed and get different places. So love it.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, no, that's great to hear. I I hope it wasn't my hotel's email address that was not correct. Um, can you tell me how has time helped your leadership style?
SPEAKER_03:Strange. Yeah, so I got paired with Kelly. Um, and so she's like a professional development coach. Um, she goes into companies and she's a very um bubbly, charismatic, like she is so phenomenal. Um, and I guess I'm a little bit reserved. Like I'm I'm shy, I I I don't deal very well with stuff like that. So for me, instantly I was like, we're chalk and cheese. But it's she just gave me so many resources and so many tools to look at things in such a different way. Um, whether it's just basic stuff like responding to an email um or talking to management, like just giving myself um, I always kept saying I had no confidence, but she kept telling me it's that's not the case. But it's just it was getting the right tools to get to ask the questions I wanted or to approach people in a way that I felt comfortable with or that suited their style. Um so I guess that's the biggest thing that's changed for me is knowing where to use these tools she's given me in conversations to people of all kinds of levels. Um yeah, and some I mean, everything is still like I still find things like confrontation very hard. Um, but it's understanding and keeping a different kind of level of composure and asking the right questions, I guess, to help work all of that out. So yeah, for me doing the time program with Kelly, yeah, it has been phenomenal. Like just work, but outside of work as well. Like there's some things I'm just like actually, no, like I kind of check myself now. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, thank you actually for highlighting that it's actually is connected between your professional development but also your personal development, I feel as well. Um, that's really good. Uh, I also want to quickly highlight at this um uh point in time that we are still to do the car fool karaoke episode with Kelly. Kelly, who has volunteered to be invited.
SPEAKER_01:Shout out to Kelly. We're still waiting for you to confirm what date you're available, so then we can do a sing along in the car. But anyway.
SPEAKER_00:I have I have to protect her. We have the date scheduled, and I had to cancel on that date, unfortunately. But it's true. We were actually on track to have it recorded last year, but it will definitely come this year. Katrina, you're obviously more than welcome to join the car and explore a different depth of expression of your personality. If you feel like that.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, I may I may pass on that one.
SPEAKER_00:I had a feeling, I had a feeling.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, it's it's kind of outside elsewhere.
SPEAKER_00:You know, did you know Kelly before at all, or was that a first-time, complete new experience meeting her?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so we just got paired, so I got an email from her and just yeah, time introduction introduced us. Um, and I was fortunate enough to be in Sydney um soon after we'd all our um mentors had been announced. So I actually caught up with her in the coffee shop and um yeah, we had a quick chat over coffee and stuff like that. And then because I obviously am in Brisbane, Callie's in Sydney. So a lot of everything we did was over Zoom and team schools. But every time I was in the office, yeah, Callie just made the effort to come in to the city to have coffee or or whatever it was. So yeah, um, yeah, never met before, never heard of each other. Um, so yeah, it was it was yeah, honestly, they couldn't have got the pairing better.
SPEAKER_01:I'm good surprise. How did you uh what what was the reason why you decided to do time?
SPEAKER_03:Was it because you were were you already in that role at the time or um um so the the the title of business um operations manager is quite new, like that all kind of happened um you know three or four months ago. Uh I guess I was kind of doing the role without the title. Um and my general manager came to me and said, Oh look, we've been asked about time. Do you want to have a look and see if you want to apply? And I'm all like I said, I'm driven, I'm all for professional development, business development, anything to my job. Um so yeah, as soon as I kind of seen it, we sat down um and we just kind of went through the application. And yeah, it was just something that really inspired me. Like I've always wanted a mentor. Um, had no idea how it all works, but yeah, I'm just really grateful that I did get to do it. Um, and yeah, it's something I'd probably recommend to everyone because I don't think there's anyone that wouldn't benefit from having someone like that.
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SPEAKER_00:Is there a particular behavior or a particular thought pattern that you found very helpful or beneficial that you need to bring to the table to make the relationship between the mentor and the mentee as efficient as possible?
SPEAKER_03:Um I think it is really like I'm quite um a guarded person. Like I I have walls probably higher than um the Great Wall in China. And but for me, understanding that the to get benefits out of everything, I have to let people in. Um and Kelly had a really good way of kind of knowing my boundaries. Um, but it's just all about being open and honest, and you know, if I was having a bad day, like she could actually sense that, like, and she knew that if she would push me on something that I kind of shut down. So it was a real give and take of like her just really understanding people and personalities, um, and then for me, like having to open up. So yeah, it's it anyone who does it just has to be really open, honest. And yeah, just if they want to get something out of it, yeah, that's the best way to be. It's you just need to let everything go and yeah, put your trust in your mentor, really.
SPEAKER_00:What's it like um a light bulb, uh sorry, a light bulb moment. A light bulb, a light bulb moment um where you notice, oh, here is a certain reaction for me to being exposed to something that does something to me that you've changed because of the mentoring? Does the question make sense?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, like for me in my personal life, it is I've probably noticed the massive difference. So I um I lost my mum about three years ago, and so now I have my dad as I look after his finances and stuff. He still lives in New Zealand, so um, but we never had a really close relationship. So during the mentorship, like um Kelly, we discussed a lot about my dad and how I felt and when I go back to New Zealand, like how anxious I get and anxiety and stuff. Um, and so we broke so much of that down, and like I think at one point, like I was near tears, like just discussing it. But I've just come back from a trip to New Zealand for Christmas, where I spent two weeks with my dad. Um and it was probably one of the best experiences I've ever had. Um, so I and I just feel like I've let so much stuff go that it just changed the whole dynamic of the trip. And I would definitely say a lot of that is from Kelly. Um yeah, and just going through and working through and letting go of stuff that I've been holding on for years. So probably personally I've seen that would be the biggest thing that's happened to me. Like, and it's to the point where I was like, I feel like I could go back again and I don't have that anxiety. So yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you for hearing that. That's very personal, obviously. I really appreciate that. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, yeah. It shows it's uh there's a lot of vulnerability that comes into this mentoring kind of like you know, uh relationship at times, right? Um, and it's always a little good to be able to let your guard down a little bit, like be vulnerable with the mentor because this is these are the moments where you make the most progress, right? Um, whereas like if you if you if you keep your guard up, you're never really going to learn anything from it, right? And um, so yeah, she's she's got magic uh powers, I think.
SPEAKER_02:Um she really does. Like I I think her business is called corporate magic, so yeah, believing um there's some magic touches in there.
SPEAKER_00:Thank you for dropping it. We can't mention it, but you can, so that's fine. That's wonderful. Um now tell us a little bit about your six-month journey there. Um, did you week uh did you meet weekly or bi-weekly or fortnightly, monthly? How did you structure it? Did it change?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so Paul Kelly had to put up with me and all my traveling. Um so if I wasn't traveling for personal trips, it was work trips. So quite often I think my journey actually got pushed out by about four months just because I couldn't get the hours in. Um, so yeah, obviously that was all arranged and it was fine to do that. Um, but yeah, Callie was just fantastic. Like I think there was a couple of times where she was like, look, something's come up. Is it okay if I cancel? And I was like, you know, I've moved so many things for you. So that is absolutely fine. So yeah, we tried to do two times a month. Um, but yeah, like I said, sometimes it would be um once a month, sometimes it would be three times a month. So it just kind of worked in around she, I guess she worked in around my schedule. So I would just go through, make an appointment with her, and yeah, we'd block out an hour, hour and a half, um, sometimes two hours. Um, yeah, she was just so understanding. Like, even when we met in person, I think there was um quite some urgent stuff going on at work, and she could just see that was really like not quite in it. Like, you know, so she's like, if you need to go, that's absolutely fine. We'll just catch up on our hours later. So yeah, she was just really understanding, she just made it so easy, but um, it is definitely an a commitment um for time, so it is something you really do need to schedule, and yeah, it's great that I could work around it, I guess.
SPEAKER_00:I think Kelly is always a prime example of a very understanding and flexible mentor. Um, and especially when you're busy with your responsibilities, um, that is a fantastic experience, obviously, that that you were able to manage around that uh based on operational needs. Um, being myself in operations, I uh understand the pressure points there quite a bit, and so does Arnaud. Um, although every time you record, he's just chilling at home in his private podcast studio.
SPEAKER_01:Yes, that is true. That's how my friends call my house, the podcast studio.
SPEAKER_00:Well redirected. Good job. Well done, Arnold. Uh Katalina, tell us a bit about the networking experience you had throughout the time.
SPEAKER_03:Sorry, did you just say that again for me?
SPEAKER_00:Um, the networking experience. Were you able to attend some of the meetings?
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, so I guess that was my biggest challenge. Um being in Brisbane when most of them are in Sydney. Uh and when they were in Brisbane, I was always in Sydney or overseas. So that I guess that's the biggest part that I think I missed out on was the networking, was the events. Um, but I did get to go to like one or two of them. And I think I did like a Teams call and stuff like that. Um I 100% believe like if I could have attended them all, or like 80% of them, like it would literally open doors for you because of the amount of people that go and the people that come to them, um, and just the knowledge sharing in there as well. Like people are so willing to share their information, share their stories, share their tips, um, give you feedback. So yeah, that for me would be the one thing that I yeah, am I guess a little bit, you know, disappointed I didn't get to attend so much. But um, yeah, just with the cost of traveling all the time, it's it's not always feasible. Um, but we made it work, so yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Have you gone to the networking events in Brisbane? Because they organise quite a lot.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, there I they've just always been at a time where I've been overseas or I've been in Sydney. So yeah, just planning wise, always never that great for me.
SPEAKER_01:Um, yeah, so you should go because I think that they're very active in Queensland. There's a there's there's there's there's been a lot of mentees coming out of that the program that are based in Queensland and they've always been like super, super active. They have this always this beautiful events on top on a rooftop terrace somewhere in Brisbane.
SPEAKER_03:It's always a lot of and they've got them on a on the cruise ship and stuff, and yeah, it's just always been the bad bad timing. But yeah, I definitely will try to do some more. But yeah, it's just unfortunate. I haven't got to any.
SPEAKER_00:So I know it sounds a little bit like that. We have to go there and do a rooftop cocktail and do a rooftop um edition episode of the podcast. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, that rooftop at um the Alliance Office North Tini, uh, where you know they welcome us occasionally, you know, for some graduations. Oh, cover more, sorry. Um, where we did that 15th anniversary of um of time. I love that place. Like that the view from there is just like uh it's like the the the best view. It's the money shop, right? Like the uh overlooking the Harvard Bridge, the Opera House, the whole like you know, Sydney Harvard. It's just like um it's magical.
SPEAKER_00:I was very disappointed that we weren't invited for New Year's Eve.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. If you're listening.
SPEAKER_00:Speaking about New Year's Eve, Katrina, what are your resolutions for 2026 from a professional point of view?
SPEAKER_01:One that's working?
SPEAKER_03:I'm not really into resolutions, I guess. Um I just set some kind of personal things and then I just work from there. But for me, it's just um I guess getting more confident in my role um is taking on a bit more work. Not that I have the time, but you know, and it's just kind of working through and getting some really good projects um underway as well. Because we have been so busy, we've kind of neglected a few things. So yeah, it's really just kind of um making a few projects stand out properly and getting them done. So and it's yeah, just growing the confidence for myself personally, um, yeah, to take on a few extra things.
SPEAKER_00:Nice. So if you would meet um the 20-year-old version of Arnold, what would you actually what what advice would you give him for his career pathway? Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Um probably the same thing I would have said to myself is that you do have confidence. Um it's and just don't put in the self-doubt um that you're capable of absolutely anything. And if you've got the drive and and the will to do it, there's there's nothing that can actually stop you. Um yeah, so it's all I just think be confident.
SPEAKER_01:Well, thank you very much, Katrina. I will I'll take note of that and then um, you know, so yes. So then for the future of my career when I'll turn 40 in 20 years' time, um, I'll make sure that I go back to my notes and remember what you said.
SPEAKER_02:Thank you for your give me a shout out at your 21st.
SPEAKER_00:I think I know you were a foreign to dog ears, were you?
SPEAKER_01:Exactly. Um I think that you touched on that in during your during your your gra your graduation and your and your speech that was like actually quite uh and and and I think there was a lot of people like I mean I was looking around, you know, like when you when I look at the speech, when I listen to the speeches, I listen to obviously the person who is graduating. But I uh for the purpose of the podcast, you know, I also look at the reactions of that, the people around, just to see if like people sort of like resonate to what you say. And I think there was a lot of people that were kind of like relating to sort of like your journey and and then where you were at at the start and you know where where it's taken you. So um it looks like it's really had some very positive effects for you. How did you find the graduation and uh the whole process of because you said that to us that you were to be reserved? And um, how how did you do you find that process?
SPEAKER_03:Um, yeah, so the night itself was amazing. Like um the speech literally terrifies me. Like I could not think of anything worse. Um, I'd rather go to the dentist ten times in a row than Wow. And I don't like the dentist either. Um but again it's it's just pushing your boundaries, like it is having the confidence in yourself. Um and just, I don't know, yeah, just just doing it because you know you need to do it. Um but I do, yeah, that night for me I think was quite special because I think quite a lot of people's speeches after that, I felt like they would either look at me um or there was some kind of relation and they would like refer back to me. So I kind of yeah, I kind of agreed like that my journey, um, because everyone's mentors are quite different, but I feel mine was quite a personal mentor um rather than you know working on business acumen and stuff like that. So I feel like um maybe my experience was kind of experience other people have had without within their lives or or need to have. Um so yeah, I it for me it was quite special, like that people were kind of acknowledging me. Um yeah, but yeah, the night itself, I mean, they put on some beautiful events, like the people there, like I said again, everyone's just so accommodating and willing and and lovely, such amazing people to get all together. Um, but yeah, the speech part was yeah, terrifying.
SPEAKER_00:I find it interesting because um you said you you you didn't say you were an introvert, we kind of described you're an introvert. So you're um you mentioned you know, becoming confident is important for your career pathway. Um and you do project all of that actually, as in you come across very confident, not overconfident, but you know, just very relatable, confident. You come across as not having a Chinese wall around you at all, to be honest. You seem quite um vulnerable, approachable. Yeah, it's it's very it's a very interesting mixture of personality you bring to the table, um or in this case to the studio. Um so I wasn't there for your graduation speech because I was overseas, but I can envision for people being especially able to relate to you because that's the energy you project to the room. It's a powerful tool, actually, I think. Um that's that's very exciting to experience for me as well. Thank you for bringing that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And I've got to say, so on that particular day, I brought with me my director of operations, or the person that reports it to me, because I felt like the program will be able to, you know, like help him on his professional journey beyond what I can offer to him. I think that, you know, having a mentor which is outside of your organization always brings like you know a different perspective. And but he's so he's from New Zealand. And when he heard your speech, um, you know, I could see that he uh he nodded the entire time that you talked. And um and after that, I was like, so what you know, obviously we spent the whole night, and then he managed to you know meet a lot of people through the you know, during the the little like networking um session that we had afterwards. And and I said, look, like what so would you like to do this? And he said, absolutely like sign me up. I think that you know, you were with that without you knowing, I'm telling you now, um, you had that kind of effect on him for him to be wanting to to to do the program. So um yeah, it was what you haven't told me that Arnold.
SPEAKER_00:Thanks for holding back with a death story until now. How dude?
SPEAKER_01:You don't know everything about me team.
SPEAKER_00:It's not unacceptable. It was part of the deal that all information is provided to me. We need we need to contact HR immediately. We have uh we have a new a new question that we asked towards the end of the podcast. So we did increase the dollar amount. The question is what was something that you have bought in the last, let's say, six months for less than$100 that has changed your life or inspired something in your life? Creative pause.
SPEAKER_03:I just got um I'm sorry to everyone, but I did buy something cough Sheen. Um, it is a painting. It's not a painting, it's an artwork, and I apologize it's probably replicated, replicated of someone else's. Um but if it's in that budget, um but it just says do epic shit. Excuse my language. But to me, like why not? Like, like for me, that I just look at it and I'm like, yeah, why not? Why not fill this world that we have and do epic stuff like all the time? So for me, I look at it and I'm like, yep. So yeah, for me, that's yeah, changed my life. And it for this year, it'll change my whole outlook on it's it's saying it's saying yes to stuff.
SPEAKER_00:So I love that, and it just shows, you know, if you have something placed in your office that reminds you of a certain um behaviorism you want to show in whatever situation, if you have that visual clue, um, that can be quite powerful and very affordable. Yes. Us tennis players, we actually do that a lot. Yes. Um that we bring artwork to the court. Um but we all have our little things like you a certain thing at your back that you look at at difficult points, or like we all have it. Um so yes, that's a very powerful tool. Um, love, love, love that story around it.
SPEAKER_01:The power of visualization, yeah, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00:Yeah, do you visualize apart from hair, obviously?
SPEAKER_01:So um believe it or not, but I use visualization quite a lot when I do when I do run marathons and stuff like that. So I do like in in the weeks before, I do visualize the course. Um so especially when if it's in Sydney, then I've I've been there and so like I just close my eyes and I just visualized my uh just visualized my rest. Um so I know when it's gonna go up, when it's gonna go down. And so, you know, I do that for a few times before before um before the runs. Yeah. So then on the day, you don't feel like you're discovering the cost because it's already in your head, right? So so your brain just focuses on the rest, the speed, the breathing, all this sort of stuff. Um, you don't have all these um other visual cues that can come up during a race day. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Maybe that's why I'm such an unsuccessful runner. Maybe I should try that.
SPEAKER_01:Um I mean, uh the the first time I I thought, uh, okay, here we go. This is like a woo woo thing. I didn't really believe in it. And then um and I tried it. And then the first time I did it, I did a PV. Um and and and I and then a big one. And yes, it was obviously the rest of my training that had allowed me to be able to run faster, but also that eliminated, you know, a lot of yeah, the the some of the visual, the the visual um cues that could have come up during the race. I didn't have to think about like when I was gonna have to turn and when that heel comes up and all this sort of stuff because I already knew where it was. So um I was yeah, it works really well.
SPEAKER_00:That sounds very exhausting to me. So I definitely want to close the podcast on a polished note. Katarina, last question. What excites you most about your professional future now that the program has been finalized for you and your graduate?
SPEAKER_01:Yes.
SPEAKER_03:Um I guess it's just for me continuing on. Like for me, I don't see um I know that I won't be just in this role forever. Like I know that there is there's more things for me to come. Um, so yeah, I guess putting everything together and and yeah, moving forward towards that, like that's what excites me. Like, yeah, that's just gonna keep me going because yeah, I know like I'm not here just to sit still.
SPEAKER_00:Nice. Well, we definitely wish you all the best for that, and thank you so much for your time today and for for sharing your story. Uh deal one of the network events, either when we come to Brisbane or you come to Sydney.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah, yeah, that'd be fantastic. Yeah. Um, maybe the rooftop bar in North Sydney with that. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:You can be sure we surely find a rooftop bar. Maybe in a beautiful little hotel, we have a beautiful rooftop. Just highlighting it. Yeah, all right.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I I think the next graduation uh in Sydney is scheduled for sometime in February. I do not have the date, um, and so I apologize for that. Um, so if you are in Sydney, Katrina, please come over. And for all um everyone in our audience that wants to come to those um networking events uh or attending graduation, um, they can go on the time website and they can have a look.
SPEAKER_00:Excellent. We close on that note. Thank you, everyone. Thank you, Katrina. Thank you, Arno, and thank you to the billions of listeners.
SPEAKER_01:Billions around the world. Growing.
SPEAKER_00:All right, guys. Happy Friday. Thank you. See ya.
